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Traffic Order Consultation.

 

The following is an extract from our evidence to the consultation on setting speed limits and also covers the scope of this consultation. We therefore submit it for your consideration.

 

We are only focusing on permanent speed limit orders under the 1996 regs.

 

Author: K S Peat

Organisation: Drivers’ Union.

 

Web site: www.youdrive.co

 

CV of Author: Motor engineer by trade, served 32 years in London Police. Class 1 advanced police driver & police motorcyclist. Dealt with road accidents, prosecuted them, provided abstracts of accidents for the legal teams and prepared & submitted accident stats. And since 2006 voluntarily surveying speed limit orders, submitting either objections or no objections in detail. I doubt if any other contributor to this consultation would match the driving, accident, prosecution, and speed limit qualifications so appropriately. It should also be born in mind that there is no University degree in expert driving, accident reporting or speed limit survey in that context which is as appropriate for this evidence.

 

 

Amateurism & no expertise:

 

  1. Road safety is a life and death issue where people can and will be prosecuted with serious effect to their, and their family’s welfare and income. Added to which all roads are national. Speed limits are not local. All of UK’s drivers are subject to and use any speed limit. Can we really then have a national speed limit policy based solely on non-expert vested interest parochialism? The answer to that is self evident. But worse. A local councillor, who may not even be a driver and even an anti driver too, can be re-elected simply by pleasing a handful of villagers with a speed limit. This cannot be a right or healthy policy.

 

  1. Advertising: As previously discussed, all speed limits are national. It may be conceivable for a national database of speed limit orders to be published in the national press, on a divided cost basis, cheaper than local authorities publishing their own locally. It is also very feasible to publish such lists via the internet to all those groups and individuals who express their interests. It is paramount the public are encouraged to play a larger part in this important matter. It is the failure to involve the general public that has led to an obvious and blatant contempt of the speed limit consultation process which results in unnecessary prosecution of perfectly safe drivers and profiteering one and the same time.

 

 

  1. Speed limit orders: Given that we are talking about slowing major infrastructure and the prosecution of citizens, then speed limit orders must contain far more than the Spartan contempt for the consultation process that public apathy has allowed it to be come.

 

 

Q9) We obtain information of notices from various sources. One local authority actually forwards copies of their orders direct via email, but we are generally reliant on the local press or other organisations alerting us to proposals.

 

Q10) The importance of prosecution of drivers, often for no valid reason in my considered opinion and that flawed focus on wrong issues will often ignore accident causes and in some cases, actually create them elsewhere, is newsworthy; never mind being buried in some uninteresting little post in a parochial newspaper. As discussed in the pre-amble to this response, all speed limits are national in effect. It is therefore appalling and opens the door for vested interests that the public are actually being dissuaded from taking more interest in this important life and death issue. Local parochial newspapers, within a District or Borough Council, are simply not appropriate. All permanent speed limit orders, because of their importance, need to be published in a central, nationally accessible and available database .

 

Impact assessment:

 

4.47 It is appalling and opens the door for vested interests that, under the current system, the public are actually being dissuaded from taking more interest in this important life and death issue. Local parochial newspapers, within a District or Borough Council, are simply not appropriate. All permanent speed limit orders, because of their importance, need to be published in a central, nationally accessible and available database.

 

 

4.27 Police: Involving the police: See attached examples of some speed limit orders.  It is not enough to say, ‘police have been consulted’. What was their response and how do they intend to apply the limits? In view of the serious nature of the work and the consequences it is contempt to not have an individually considered police response included in every order.

 

 

N.B: We have not attached the examples cited in the original evidence since the comments here are self sufficient.

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