Is it permissible to talk with the Khithbah done girl of him


 




bismillaah hir rahmanir raheem, alhamdulillaah was salathu was salam alan nabiya, ama badh
" I will NOT speak in religion Except I have a Model of Salaf  to it "

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Asked from Shiekh Al-Albani, Is it possible for the person who have done the khithbah to talk with the Khithbah done girl of him.
Shiekh Al-Albani asks ; Is it before marriage (Aqd - Nikah) or after the (Aqd - Nikah)
The questioner replies: Before the (Aqd - Nikah)
Shiekh Al-Albani says: "No he cannot talk"

And Shiekh Ibn Uthaimeen says in the commentary of his book Mumthi'a
Is it allowed him to talk to the Khithbah done girl of him.
Shiekh Ibn Uthaimeen says : "No, No, because talking to her will make him feel into desire with her voice, That's why the Prophet Muhammed Sallallahu Alaihi Wassallum says to look into what encourage him for the marriage.... did not say to hear from her"

these are the translation of the two shiekhs opinion in this matter, and seems to be the strongest in it's point of evidence in this matter and a better and final view on this issue inshallah, I have been advicing on this ever since I have come to know of this verdict of these two scholars as it stands firm than what the other opinions say.... Allahu A'alum...

Translated and commented by Abu Abdur Rahman As-Saylani

سئل الشيخ العلامة الألباني الشريط (269) من سلسلة الهدى والنور:
هل يجوز للخاطب أن يكلم خطيبته بالهاتف؟!
فأجاب - رحمه الله تعالى - : [ عقدت عليها أم لا؟
السائل: بعدُ.
الشيخ : لا يجوز.
السائل : حتى وإن كان من أجل النصيحة ؟!
الشيخ : لا يجوز...!].

وقال الشيخ ابن عثيمين - في "الشرح الممتع":
[ هل يجوز له مكالمتها- أي المخطوبة-؟
الجواب : لا ،لا لأن المكالمة أدعى للشهوة والتلذذ بصوتها، ولهذا يقول النبي – صلى الله عليه وسلم -"أن ينظر منها إلى ما يدعوه.." ولم يقل "أن يسمع منها!".]اهـ.

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Is it Permissible to Talk to ones Fiancée over the Telephone?

 

Answered by

 

the Muhadith, the ‘Allaama, Shaykh of Hadeeth

Muhammad Nasr ud-Deen al-Albaani

 

Translated by

Abbas Abu Yahya

 

 

This is a translation of the transcript of a question that was asked to Shaykh al-Albaani - may Allaah have mercy upon him.

 

Shaykh: Yes

 

Questioner: Assalamu alaykum

 

Shaykh: wa Alaykum Assalamu wa Rahmatullaahi wa Baraktuhu

 

Questioner: If you don't mind is the noble Shaykh al-Albaani there?

 

Shaykh: He's with you.

 

Questioner: Good, if you would allow me O Shaykh I have some questions to ask.

 

Shaykh: Go ahead.

 

Questioner: Is it permissible to talk to my fiancée over the phone?

 

Shaykh: have you contracted the marriage yet or not?

 

Questioner: not yet.

 

Shaykh: It's not permissible.

 

Questioner: Not permissible??

 

Shaykh: Not allowed.

 

Questioner: Even if it's for advice?

 

Shaykh: it's not permissible.

 

Questioner: ok is it permissible for me to visit her and sit with her if the Mahram is present?

 

Shaykh: with a Mahram being present and she comes in front of you wearing a Jilbaab in Hijab, like when she goes out, then it's allowed, otherwise no.

 

Questioner: is it possible for her to uncover her face?

 

Shaykh: it's possible, if it's only the face.

 

Questioner: only the face?

 

Shaykh: She shouldn't wear a beautified dress and a short dress etc.

 

Questioner: ok regarding sitting with her, what is permissible for me to talk to her about?

 

Shaykh: Do not talk to her except with what you would talk to with other than her.

 

Questioner: Ok if she asks me for a picture of me, is it ok to give it to her or not?

 

Shaykh: just like if you asked her for her picture.

 

Questioner: yes??

 

Shaykh: I said just like if you asked her for her picture.

 

Questioner: yeah.

 

Shaykh: Is it permissible?

 

Questioner: No.

 

Shaykh: and my answer is also no.

 

Questioner: your answer is no??

 

Shaykh: no, definitely no.

 

Questioner: about what??

 

Shaykh: About what! For the same thing what you said, that you cannot ask her for her picture.

 

Questioner: yeah.

 

Shaykh: understand?

 

Questioner: yeah, yes.

 

Shaykh: If you understand then stick to it.

 

Questioner: But O Shaykh sometimes a person is forced to phone her, is this permissible?

 

Shaykh: I don’t think there is a need, you want to marry her don’t you?

 

Questioner: For example, is it permissible to phone her for the possibility that I can visit her, at such and such time?

 

Shaykh: why do want to visit her?! What's the difference between her and any other woman?

 

Questioner: Do you mean it's not allowed to visit her?

 

Shaykh: O my brother, I say to you what's the difference between her and any other woman? Why do you want to visit her? You want to marry her; you marry her by requesting it from her guardian.

 

Questioner: If her guardian is present?

 

Shaykh: You want to marry her, you marry her by requesting her guardian, if there is an original agreement then you can visit her if the guardian is present, to see her and she sees you, as for visiting her then no!

 

Questioner: It's still not allowed to visit even after the engagement?

 

Shaykh: After the engagement?

 

Questioner: Yeah.

 

Shaykh: She remains to be a stranger to you O brother until you perform the marriage contract.

 

Questioner: Thank you, may Allaah reward you O Shaykh.

 

Shaykh: And you.

 

Questioner: May Allaah be generous to you.

 

Shaykh: May Allaah protect you… Sallamu alayk.

 

Questioner: Assalamu alaykum

 

Shaykh: Wa Alaykum Assalamu wa Rahmatullaahi wa Baraktuhu

 

 

Taken from: Silsilah Huda wa Noor, tape no. 269 at 10mins.