On the nastier side of things - A former
Church Of Satan and Filipino hooker pusher Member Edgar Swank: (http://edgars.byethost13.com/cos.htm) and ACS Chief and Cryonics sick old grandpa James Yount swapped
photo's and masturbation fantasies about cryogirls younger sisters (one is 13
at time) It would also seem that Cryogirl was also trying to play Yount and
possibly Swank for money by sending the soft porn shots and setting up
advertising for ACS on MySpace. The sad thing is the whole family was taken
along for the ride and now they are separated and hurt.
It looks like these Cryonics People are not above
messing around with families in a rather sinister way. It seems that Cryogirl
had a lot of mental health issues and Yount, and Swank were messing with her head instead of
helping her. It would appear that Cryogirl is still missing apparently holed
up with Yount and they will not let her have contact with her estranged
family. From contact with her husband she says she is fine, but he is
rightfully worried. She is in a $1300 a month apartment in CA, the question
is-who is paying the bills?
UPDATED - 18/10/10
It would appear that Shannon Vyff got involved in this by trying to
"help" in a misguided way. She apologized for her part and we have
included her side of the story below. IT DID look from the e-mails on the
cryonics cache website that she had tried to delete personal details. However
in the sake of fairness we have posted her side of things - she is the only
one who has come forward. She (Vyff) says was only trying to help
Amanda and be a friend but got embroiled in the mess by association -
she wrote to us with her side of things.
From e-mail: (edited so as not to include
unnecessary personal details)
never met Amanda Blevins in person, I was not in Florida for the teens and
twenties event, I've never met Shannon Blevins. I've never met Jim Y, or
Edgar S, and only heard from Shannon Blevins recently how they met and
offered the Blevins a trust, then started encouraging, enlisting Amanda to do
"promotion" for them. ACS is not connected with the Society for
Venturism, nothing much goes on with the Society of Venturism anyway.The
Society for Venturism was set up for cryonics advocacy and support, along with
giving cryonicists a way to express that they do not wish for autopsy. I've never been to any live meeting of the Venturists, as they
are hardly any members. The board work is done by email, and is not
regular, people talk maybe once a year when we discuss helping in some way.
I've not met David Pizer. I have met John Strickland and his lovely wife when
I was living for a year in the UK, they are nice people. John helped start
the Venturists and is a sincere, honest person from what I've seen.
don't believe in cryonics, and say it only has a 1 to 2 percent chance of
working anyway and that it makes sense to try it. I don't expect it to work
however, it would be a nice surprise if it did-and I would continue doing
good in what ways I can, then as I do now.
have volunteer positions in "extreme life extension" organizations;
it is like a hobby of mine. I've heard a lot of gossip about cryonics over
the years, and I had heard about the Edgar porn business thing. When I
recently talked with Shannon Blevins he said that Edgar still has one and
that it has some kind of satanic porn. I've not seen it, but you might want
to investigate that.
introduced by Ben Best to Amanda Blevins by email, and tried to give her
advice with her situation. She told me things that she was worried about,
such as whether or not I thought what some ACS leaders were doing, was
inappropriate. I did not know about ACS and asked around, and then I
heard about one of the leaders having made money from the porn industry.
I relayed that information to Amanda, and I tried to be a friend to
her--saying that she did not need to get attention from men in a flirtatious
way-that she could communicate with them on a professional level only and
just discuss her trust. I was sad to see the way things played out, how
there was a money trail from ACS to Amanda's PayPal, all of the flirtation
and grooming in the emails that her husband sent out. When her husband sent
private emails out, some of them were mine--thus my name somehow got wrapped
into the story, when I'd never physically met these people and was trying to
help (not to mention, figure out what was up with ACS.)
I do think there are problems in certain parts of the cryonics
community, beyond even what Melody Maxim talks about. But it is not my goal
to hurt the whole community, I'd just like to see it get better, as I believe
is the goal of Melody.
appreciate you taking the time to get things straight on your site. I do think some very inappropriate and sad things were offered by
some in leadership at ACS to Amanda, and that it has sadly affected her
family. I'm glad that her husband is being a good dad for those kids, he went
through so much, as did they--and they all need the stability and peace. I
was happy to hear that the children have become more talkative and
outgoing--they have been thriving in the household since it is not tension
my name was on some emails--and I did share some of my own problems from my
past, even present --but I was trying to show how one can overcome them, and
that everyone has problems. I was opening up as one would to a friend.
I do think there is a story there to tell though if someone would get
to the bottom of it, I don't know where ACS gets its money --who is
supporting Amanda now, where she is, etc.
mentioning that Shannon Vyff used the same e-mail address as the
"leaked" e-mails on the external website- so if her side of the
story is true is up for question how much of it is true. Some might say it is
the smoking gun to her involvement, others might say she is just a good
natured person who is also being manipulated by "cryonics gurus".
What's worth noticing is how she pretty much confirms everything about Yount
and Swank and tries to remove herself from all the abuse claims. She thinks
Ben made mistakes but still supports him, which in itself shows she is naive.
She plays a good game - the passionate church going middle class valley girl
who just markets cryonics as a "hobby" – time will tell if she is
what she says she is.
Is Cryonics a dying cult? As the older members
die off they must worry about their suspensions being maintained. The
Venturists and other similar organisations are particularly worried about
this. So they have been recruiting a younger generation to carry it on
(including cryoncist's children). Currently, a small group of cryonicists are
in process of developing a cryonics oriented trust company employing younger
cryonicists as trusteesfor the accounts.
They target vulnerable people including the
children of cryonicists and encourage them to set up little cryonics
companies and Stand By services (Cryogirl and David Styles) and recruit more
young people. Some of them use the internet to market their ideas in web 2.0
marketing techniques using Google alerts and blogs (Luke Parrish, Elizer
Yudowsky, Chana and Aschwin De Wolfe).
They are encouraged to keep in a tight-knit
community and some of them take this quite literally and indulge in all sorts
of strange sexual practices with each other to strengthen those bonds.
Ben Best has been involved with cult-like groups
before like a EST
Commune before (QUOTE Ben Best: "I lived in a
co-operative house with about 25 people and I aggressively participated in
the Human Potential Movement, particularly Cold Mountain Institute (the
Esalen of Canada) and EST.") This
time he is the charismatic leader a man who just says wants to save lives, a
theoretical gerontologist, so called pharmacist who spends a lot of time
writing on his website. Shannon Vyff is trying to get kids interested and is
producing a lot of "writing" for them regarding Cryonics and her
rather strange view of religion (she is a member of the UU Church and Church
of Venturism too). (From ieet website : "We talk about
futurism, cryonics, social justice, calorie restriction, talking to kids
about death, and teaching transhumanism in the Unitarian Universalist Sunday
School program " She says she teaches world religions and even FSM, that
she teaches kids how to think and questions things—sounds like she is also
trying to slip in a cryonics agenda to me.
Bill Fallon is probably helping to bankroll the and definitely uses it to promote the young
cryonicists cult Lifeboat
Foundation Project (Mass Cryonics). Also involved are American
Cryonics Society and Cryonics
Institute and Alcor are providing equipment and sponsorship to the young cryoncists.
They hope to get lots of new "blood" and turn cryonics into a
multi-billion dollar industryand are a techno-religion of the 21st century. Saul
Kent looks to be supporting the Teens & Twenties cryonicist event along
with Bill Fallon, where they are trying to get young cryonicists to