Thursday 14 June 2012
8:41 Good morning from Oslo Courthouse. The court set at 09 for day 37 of the criminal case against Behring Anders Breivik after the attacks on 22 July.
8:42 The court will now start processing the first expert report about Breivik's sanity.
8:42 The report concludes psychiatrists Synne Sørheim and Torgeir Husby that Breivik was insane during the terrorist attack.
8:43 Psychiatry has the opportunity to change their assessment during the trial. None of the experts have commented on whether it is appropriate.
8:53 Court participants are about to enter the courtroom.
8:55 The first expert, Synne Sørheim and Torgeir Husby, talks with defender Geir Lippestad.
8:57 Sørheim Husby and talking together. So does the second law expert couple, Aspaas and Tørrissen.
8:59 The defendant is brought into court.
9:01 Husby and Sørheim talk to the prosecutor Inga Bejer Engh.
9:01 Defender Geir Lippestad and the prosecutor Svein Holden talking together.
9:09 Several of the court's players have gone onto dommmerrommet sidenav the courtroom.
9:10 The court should be set at 09 It is unclear what delays.
9:14 Prosecutors Svein Holden has taken off his black cloak lawyers use in court.
9:15 It is unclear why the court is not set so far.
9:15 Prosecutors Svein Holden talks to Attorney General Tor-Aksel Busch that is present in court.
9:16 Also prosecutor Inga Bejer Engh talking to the Attorney General.
9:17 The defenders Isolated Ground, Geir Lippestad and Vibeke Hein Bæra talking outside the room where Breivik probably is.
9:18 The judges arrive.
9:19 The court is set.
9:20 District Court Judge Wenche Elizabeth Arntzen: - We will take up a matter of closing the doors. There has been a request from the mother's attorney about closing the doors.
9:21 Arntzen read the District Court's ruling.
9:22 Arntzen: - The request for closure of the doors are not taken into account.
9:23 Arntzen says that the production company has been informed that the reading and explanation of child welfare documents and the National Centre, the names of your friends will not be broadcast.
9:24 The broadcast is three minutes late.
9:24 Torgeir Husby and Synne Sørheim gives assurances that legal experts appointed.
9:26 Sørheim explain how they will explain the statement: - We are going to read a lot of it. Before we embark on Husby minutes will give a brief introduction.
9:27 Sørheim: - After we filed the declaration, we will make a summary about testimony in court and thoughts and reflections on this. Finally, we estimate that there are plenty of questions about our privacy.
9:27 Husby starting with the Introduction: - We did not have enough imagination to imagine what would come when we accepted this case.
9:28 Husby: - Our critics have all remote diagnosis as a method.
9:30 Husby: - It is unique that a statement is published in the media.
9:30 Husby said the two have been besieged by the media for several months to comment on the declaration.
9:31 Sørheim account of his work experience and knowledge.
9:32 Husby account of his work experience and knowledge.
9:33 Husby: - We consider ourselves as mainstream psychiatrists.
9:34 Sørheim: - I have had 26 different medsakkyndige the past six years.
9:35 Sørheim: - The most I have worked with, I have had between 10-15 cases with. There are more than Husby.
9:37 Husby said it is not taken, any claim or desire for sound or video recordings of conversations with those observed, but that they would have complied with this court whose appointment was requested.
9:37 Husby explains the criteria for admission for compulsory observation.
9:39 Husby said that as long as Breivik samabreidet, it was unacceptable and that it would have been an outcry if they did: - We were not built on the idea to request any such injunction.
9:41 Husby: - When we began our talks 10 August it was still almost unntaktstilstand. The police would basically that we should depart, if they were to have him in the interrogation.
9:42 Husby: - We were required to have conversations together. It was made clear from Ilas side in a meeting.
9:42 Husby: - We were aware of the danger of public conversations.
9:43 Husby: - We had the first night before the meeting confirmed the next day, for your safety.
9:43 Husby: - We were eventually very pleased to have been able to carry out our observation.
9:44 Husby: - It is true that we were influenced by the very special situation. We found ourselves in a kind of bubble.
9:45 Husby: - On Ila provided professional that he did not get any feedback on what was happening outside.
9:46 Husby said they have been themed and not confrontational during the talks with Breivik.
9:46 Husby: - We believe that we have had favorable observation conditions in our mandate.
9:47 Husby: - The first 5-6 weeks we collected material, but we were quite struck by how strange he appeared.
9:48 Husby: - This is the most comprehensive statement that was made in Norway until then. We saw that we had to describe our surface material in a much larger scale than usual.
9:48 Husby: - After we came up with a tentative diagnosis, we realized that we had to do extensive statement to be understood.
9:50 Husby: - We have not moved in on a number of fields, since it does not belong in a forensic psychiatric statement.
9:50 Husby: - We are not terrorism experts, journalists, internet players and historians.
9:51 Husby: - If the court would like additional expertise because the mental framework of understanding is too narrow, the court may summon that expertise.
9:52 Husby: - It is incomprehensible strange to criticize that the experts have too much power in the right and one on the other hand, criticized the committee for not cud chewing and regurgitating all subject areas affecting our cause.
9:53 Husby: - You will not acquire any historian, every time it comes a new Napoleon, although he would come in uniform.
9:53 Husby: - We have never been in doubt about the existence of the political scene this case represents.
9:55 Husby explains the requirements of Statement: - It is considered to be advisory to the court. It is right that even makes its decision.
9:57 Husby:-The statement was finished, we had come to a conclusion where we were not in doubt.
9:59 Sørheim explains how the written statement is constructed.
9:59 Sørheim: - All clinical work involves judgment in two levels. First, do you do a survey, so you take a professional assessment of whether you make discoveries. So take the findings with them and carry out their second professional judgment, which considers the diagnostic findings.
10:00 Sørheim: - In forensic psychiatric context, carried out a third option, where found to be placed just mental.
10:01 Sørheim: - The fourth judgment, which the court uses its discretion to sanity, they have no influence on the experts.
10:03 Sørheim: - At the end of each call section we collect everything we believe was found in the conversation, as well as depicting what we have not found the symptoms.
10:04 Sørheim says that status after the call on the first calls will only be written later. Later in the status talks were written the same day.
10:05 Sørheim: - After the 13 calls, we took the findings we thought were the most consistent. They were repeated and elaborated, which we thought we should emphasize.
10:06 Sørheim: - The next level, the diagnostic, will be the total information in the case used. Our conversations are part of the information. Our professional judgment is about to put together, including the most robust of our findings.
10:07 Sørheim: - We're making the final forensic psychiatric judgment, by translating the criminal law requirement of mental incapacity.
10:07 Sørheim: - In order that the court should have the opportunity to follow our resonementer, the declaration built up so that it is easy to find.
10:09 Sørheim: - Until we made the declaration we received documents to mid-November. When we collect and make extracts of the relevant police records, it is aiming to shed light on our manndat given by the court. We have also obtained additional information to exercise our discretion as much as possible, this was a few health information.
10:09 Sørheim: - It is important to obtain additional information. So we talked with observandens mother.
10:10 Sørheim refer to pages in the declaration.
10:11 Sørheim talking about the mandate given by the court.
10:13 Sørheim: - Observanden have cooperated with us.
10:14 Sørheim undergoing reconstruction of the report.
10:16 Sørheim: - The very first interrogation the police did, we have chosen to reproduce in its entirety.
10:19 Sørheim reads from interrogation in which Breivik asked if he should be executed and that KT will take over power in Europe, and that they can be martyrs. She also points out that Breivik says he believes the family is going to be executed and that he has prepared for torture.
10:21 Sørheim shows that Breivik said that KT is the highest authority in Norway when it comes to the mandate to kill. She also refers to the requirements list he presented during the hearing on Utøya.
10:22 Sørheim refers to Breivik's explanation of the single-cell principle and his position in the Knights Templar.
10:24 Sørheim refers to Breivik's explanation of A, B, and C-traitors.
10:26 Sørheim reads from interrogation in which Breivik says he believes he did not commit murder, but participate in a political civil war.
10:28 Sørheim refers to fengslingsresymeet from 23 July, which Breivik think KT is the top military and political authority in Europe and that they will give politicians traitors amnesty if they surrender power to a peoples councel.
10:29 Sørheim refers to Breivik's explanation that the 22 July attacks was plan B and that the original plan was to hit several other goals.
10:30 Sørheim: - We have seen a total of up to 140 hours of interviews on DVD.
10:30 The court pauses until 1050.
10:51 Court participants are about to get into the courtroom 250
10:52 The defendant is in place in the courtroom.
10:53 The court is set.
10:54 Sørheim continue the review of the declaration.
10:54 Sørheim: - We have seen between 100 and 140 hours of police interviews on DVD.
10:55 Sørheim: - We have reproduced a part from an interview dated 22 July 2011.
10:55 Sørheim: - Observanden fall relatively early in the questioning to rest, and is the same as in all other subsequent questioning.
10:56 Sørheim: - He switches without delay between the different themes. He switches from claims, that it is cruel what he has done, to the thickness of armor, an account of KT and spells the name in Latin. He repeats several times his commander status.
10:57 Sørheim: - He does not appear as fragmented or confused, but seems at first like the pressure.
10:58 Sørheim explains the medical terms she used.
11:00 Sørheim undergoing other interrogation: - He is cooperative and the court. He does not appear as patchy, there is no sign of a mood swing. He shows no signs of remorse.
11:01 Sørheim: - From questioning 29 July. He wonders if anyone from the government or Labor sitting behind glass in the interrogation room. He wonders if he is recognized as a grandmaster of his brothers in other countries.
11:02 Sørheim: - He describes how he emosjonsløst executed those who had died. He describes many of the murders he did, and said that if someone was strong enough in Norway, it was he.
11:02 Sørheim: - During reconstruction he appears as unaffected emotionally. He appears as it should be an inspection at a construction site.
11:03 Sørheim: - We have gone through the 403 witnesses who were questioned in the case when the application was made.
11:03 Sørheim use the document number and not names as witnesses walked through.
11:04 Sørheim go through interrogations.
11:05 Sørheim read from the interrogation of the mother, which deals with statements from Breivik about how he stands.
11:07 Sørheim going refers to interrogations in which those questioned have given testimony in court and the experts regard this as satisfactory.
11:08 Sørheim summarizes testimony from a friend: - He experienced Breivik as withdrawn, but sympathetic. He had heard that Breivik game was legal.
11:10 Sørheim refers to a witness: - Breivik was often visited in 1994 and worked as a normal young boy.
11:10 Sørheim: - She says she does not come on any specific episodes from his childhood, but that he was increasing contact. She perceived him as a quiet, modest boy.
11:11 Sørheim summarizes the testimony of a former friend of Breivik.: - He experienced observanden as a friend to rely on.
11:13 Sørheim refers to several testimonies they have gone through, they believe are covered for treatment in court.
11:13 Sørheim Breivik goes through the child welfare system.
11:15 Breivik Sørheim going through treatment at the National Centre for Adolescent Psychiatry.
11:15 He was hospitalized for four weeks in 1983.
11:16 Sørheim reads from discharge letters during their stay.
11:17 Sørheim says Breivik had to take good care because his mother felt that Breivik wanted to run away.
11:19 Sørheim say it was concluded that Breivik should be out of the family.
11:20 Sørheim: - It says that it is important to start with early intervention that can prevent a severe uneven development. It was recommended to provide foster care.
11:21 It discusses which of the documents quoted.
11:23 Sørheim: - At one time or another father came into the case. The father petitioned for custody of observanden. 3. October 1983 decision the court that two experts would investigate the matter. The judgment led, as we read the documents that the father dropped the case because the parties to the joint pleadings considered the matter as settled.
11:24 Sørheim: - SSBU sent another letter asking that it was considered a change of care situation for Breivik.
11:25 Sørheim: - A study was initiated. An excerpt from the report: One found that the situation was changed slightly. The situation appears more stable. They have nothing to remark to the relationship to mother. They find no reason to suggest care.
11:26 Sørheim: - 15 June 1984 the case was dropped.
11:28 Sørheim: - opened a new case after he was taken on the train with a bunch of spray cans. The case was dismissed.
11:30 Sørheim: - In conclusion, from 1994 to 1995: The conditions seen as not very serious. The fact that the boy has been in Denmark alone is serious enough. The conversation with the mother gave the impression that she was able to solve problems. The boy himself said he did not hang tags in the environment longer.
11:30 Torgeir Husby go through Breivik compendium.
11:30 Husby passes through the experts' assessment.
11:31 Husby: - Basically, the experts rated the compendium as a possible important source of information. Because of cooperativeness from Breivik, it became less important.
11:32 Husby: - Observanden have explained the historical review in the compendium.
11:33 Husby: - The assessors have little concentrated on the compendium.
11:33 Husby go through what they have seen in the compendium.
11:34 Husby: - The experts stressed that they have not taken a position on observandens political standpoint. Nor do they have the opportunity to assess the literary quality of it.
11:36 Husby: - From a time before 2006, it looks like he loses the kognetive and intellectual features to consider how the outside world sees it.
11:37 Husby: - How compendium appears in its entirety and in detail suspected greatness performances.
11:39 Husby: - It is both in the compendium, and in conversations, difficult to understand if anyone else is in the picture or if the organization is fantasy.
11:39 Husby: - He uses a lot of time to make a glorification of heroes and martyrs.
11:40 Husby: - Observanden use much space to display command lines, and his place in a future society.
11:41 Husby: - He describes himself as having future national or European importance.
11:42 Husby: - The experts have emphasized how he focuses on himself at the interview he did with himself.
11:43 Husby: - His descriptions reminiscent of earlier religious persons who appear in any renunciation and martyrdom.
11:46 Husby read several quotes from the compendium.
11:48 Husby: - The compendium concept that can guide the thought of how the former savior has been featured in books.
11:48 Husby comparing such meeting in London with Jesus' disciples.
11:49 Husby: - Sharing his last bottle of wine with two strike up prostitute, the memory of Mary Magdalene images.
11:49 Husby: - There is a lot of cut and paste from the worst sites. The experts have also been on the sites to go after.
11:50 Husby: - Hanh experience of war, destruction and self-salvation.
11:50 Husby: - He devotes much space to their daily activities.
11:52 Husby: - He's conclusion, outlined a gold production in Finnmark. This is the remains, he entered as part of a cover story in case he was arrested before he could carry out terrorist action.
11:56 Sørheim going through a statement about Breivik intoxication during terrorist attack.
11:57 Sørheim: - Before the declaration was made, we obtained some information beyond that lay with the police. This of Breivik's consent.
11:58 Sørheim going through information from the doctor: - The tilstendte records stretching back to 1991. It does not contain information about some serious disorder.
11:59 Sørheim: - From 1998, he was treated for acute stress, had experienced insomnia. This moment coincides with that he dropped out of high school.
12:01 Sørheim: - We have also received permission to obtain information from the health service at Ila. At that time, no contact with the IPS established. The data contained information that it was initiated. But we have not collected the records.
12:01 Sørheim reading journal note on Ila.
12:02 Sørheim: - It appears from the record that he tilsees daily. The 2 august there was a finish assessment of prison doctor, without findings of psychosis, depression or suicide risk.
12:04 Sørheim: - It describes any change in his condition beyond August.
12:04 Sørheim: - The last note we have received is from 2 november.
12:05 Sørheim: - The conversation takes place through the glass wall. He says that he meditates for hours every day.
12:05 Sørheim: - He feels that the authorities have little time at his trial, so that it shall not affect the next election. He is considered to be mentally stable, with low suicide risk.
12:06 Sørheim: - The experts rated in September that it would be appropriate to have an MRI scan. This he would not contribute to.
12:06 The court will take the lunch break at 13
12:59 Court actors are trying to find their seats.
13:01 The defendant is brought into the courtroom.
13:05 The court is set.
13:05 Sørheim: - Husby will read the entire conversation with Breivik's mother.
13:07 Husby said it was undertaken measures to prevent that he would not have access to her mother's journal, although he was head of department at the hospital she was treated by.
13:08 Husby: - She stated that she was upset and angry at what she called inaccurate journalism.
13:10 Husby explains what his mother has told in interviews with the experts about including family relationships.
13:10 Husby said her mother says it was never mentioned at school that he had behavioral or school-related difficulties.
13:11 Husby said her mother told Breivik began to exercise regularly after being shown a gym in his youth.
13:12 Husby said her mother says Breivik had to use their own savings to pay the tag-bot.
13:14 Husby said her mother thought it went well in high school, until Breivik came home and said he told that he needed more education.
13:15 Husby explained on the mother's perception of Breivik's business.
13:16 Husby said her mother was not aware that Brevik had been a member of any political party. Breivik was a period a member of the Progress Party.
13:17 His mother describes Breivik very caring towards her in conversation with the experts.
13:17 Breivik alternates between looking down at the table and on the experts Husby while reading from the conversation with his mother.
13:18 Breivik smile when Husby said her mother explained that she thought it would be good for Breivik to move home to save money.
13:20 The mother was informed by Breivik in 2007 that he would write a historical book in English. In conversation she once said that his son lived ever more into the book.
13:21 Husby said that her mother explained that there was a change Breivik in 2010.
13:23 Breivik's mother has told the committee that he was keen to prevent infection and that she often thought that his son had been strange, but not sick.
13:25 To the experts have explained that Breivik mother several times over the past year he lived at home several times wanted to talk about a civil war. She recorded many mailings to his son in late 2010.
13:26 Breivik notes, smiles when Husby said that her mother thought Breivik did a lot of things.
13:27 Husby says what his mother has said about his son's lifestyle.
13:28 Her mother has told the committee that Breivik after he moved to Rena talked a lot about sounds that squeaks.
13:29 Husby said her mother has explained that Breivik should have stated that he believed there was a lot of spiders on the farm.
13:30 Sørheim: - We made an attempt to bring about a conversation with Breivik's friend. We were unable to establish contact with him.
13:31 Sørheim go through some of the committee's observations in discussions with Breivik.
13:32 After the talks they considered experts symptoms were present or not. Sørheim goes through state after the first conversation with Breivik.
13:33 Sørheim: - In the first call was attempted to explain the formal aspects and the committee's function.
13:34 Sørheim: - He was informed that it was not our role to examine the facts of the case. He was not interested in these circumstances.
13:34 Sørheim: - He presented seven questions he would ask the experts. He would not continue the talks, if they were not answered.
13:35 Sørheim: - He continually track of, among other things, Hamsun and Justice. It was hard to follow him.
13:36 Sørheim: - In the end, he explained that the U.S. used a pragmatic action when they bombed Japan.
13:36 Sørheim: - He stated that it was suicidal humanism, a term he himself has created.
13:37 Sørheim: - Breivik said that thousands of hours of sales has made him capable, with 70 percent probability what they would have answered the questions.
13:37 Sørheim: - In conversation, we asked that he signed the consent form, which he did.
13:39 Sørheim: - He is alert and oriented to time and place. Clinically assessed in the normal range. Using numerical values more than is normal. He appears to be emotionally blunted. He is polite and cooperate to the best of ability.
13:40 Sørheim: - He believes that knowing what people are talking to think. This is assessed as psychotic founded. He compares his situation with treason settlement after the war. It is considered as an expression of grandiose ideas.
13:41 Sørheim says Breivik more of the words used in the first conversation is considered neologisms.
13:42 Sørheim: - There is no latency or thought block the call. Latency period is a pause before choosing to answer.
13:43 Sørheim: - There is no evidence of lack of impulse control.
13:45 Sørheim: - Breivik told that everything was perfectly normal to 5-6. grade. Was a favorite among teachers. Was voracious.
13:46 Sørheim: - Breivik said - I was a leader from the third grade. I was the glue in the gang.
13:46 Sørheim says Breivik explained that he was at the entrance to the youth ended up in a hip-hop environment, and that he was twice arrested for tagging.
13:47 Sørheim says Breivik said that the social was a huge success in high school and that he is sure he is remembered in a very positive way from that time.
13:49 Sørheim says Breivik karateriserte that quitting high school as an ambitious decision.
13:49 Sørheim read Breivik's own descriptions from when he started in the workplace.
13:51 Breivik told the committee that he was 17 years old lost NOK 100,000 in the stock market.
13:52 Breivik explained that he spent caregiving for mothers who delay due to military service: - I regret in retrospect, it would have given good military knowledge.
13:53 Breivik explained that he had had several female lovers. He denied having had any relation to the same sex - I have not been sexually active since I was 22 I look at the body as a temple.
13:54 Sørheim: - He uses some words in unusual ways.
13:56 Sørheim: - The experts wanted to hear about his political work. He explained that he joined the FpU when he was 16 years. Before that he was linked to such Blitz. He experienced lavjihadisme.
13:58 Sørheim: - He explained that his concepts of al-Qaeda. He adds that the anarchist is short for anarchists. He has made compound words that, because the words were missing.
13:59 Sørheim: - It is difficult to follow Breivik in parts of the conversation. The company was sold after a year. It is unclear how the termination took place. The staff provided.
14:00 Breivik talks with his defense Lippestad.
14:02 Sørheim: - Breivik was planning a new concept, in which he made a prototype of a bike with advertising boards that would be cycled around the city of an unemployed academic.
14:02 There was never any of this.
14:04 Sørheim says Breivik said he thought local politics was a mistake in relation to the topics he was concerned - I had been a better time to Parliament, he said.
14:05 Breivik smile when Sørheim read his explanation of political ambition.
14:06 Sørheim says Breivik said he decided to save Europe when he was 23 years old.
14:08 Breivik smiles and notes frequently during the experts' testimony.
14:09 Sørheim: - He has constructed words that he believes is missing. They considered neologisms. He appears Covered and mysterious when he speaks of meetings in London. It appears selvhenføring or hørselshallunisasjoner.
14:10 Sørheim: - Breivik introduced next conversation that he would explain radicalization better. He said he needed to explain this.
14:11 Sørheim: - He had to be significantly controlled.
14:13 Sørheim says Breivik explained that there was a picture of the family in the compendium: - It is on success in the socio-economic area. I am a leader who is a beacon.
14:13 Breivik in conversation with the experts: - History will tell if I'm being recognized.
14:15 Sørheim: - He told KT. He said it was a military order that planning and conducting operations, he spoke of the compendium: - If you read the first words from the end, it will be radicalizing.
14:15 Sørheim says Breivik knew he could come to take life, when he made the inaugural meeting of KT in 2002.
14:16 Sørheim says Breivik explained that the Oslo citizens had to move out of the city as a result of the move: - First to Bærum and Asker, then further down in Vestfold.
14:18 Sørheim says Breivik denied that telepathy or thought transference existed: - We use technology that makes it possible to mask IP addresses.
14:20 Sørheim says Breivik explains that it will etaberes a vokterråd, and that he will be recognized as an ideological leader and is a possible new regent in Norway.
14:22 Sørheim: - He is considered to provide private, trivial matters a great political significance. He has designed, among other things domminasjon, because the word is missing. This is considered neologisms.
14:22 Sørheim: - He says he has received a command from the commander in England. He describes communication with like-minded through technology that can not be traced. This is considered as possible selvhenføring.
14:23 The court has to break 14.40.
14:42 Court participants are about to take the premises.
14:45 Breivik talking with his attorneys as he enters the room.
14:46 The court is set.
14:47 Arntzen: - We would like to finish this review today. Is it possible to replace some of the readings with Section?
14:47 Sørheim: - Is it appropriate, I have a 30 minute break to go through what can be removed.
14:48 Arntzen: - We have a certain time constraints. We have reports we have read several times. We try and see how it goes. We must watch the clock.
14:49 Sørheim: - This is just our thoughts on our surveys.
14:49 Sørheim go through their fifth conversation with Breivik.
14:49 Sørheim: - He started in a short time talking about KT.
14:50 The conversation should be about the time 2002-2006.
14:50 Sørheim: - He says he found out that the 144,000 it cost him with a private residence was not worth it, and moved home to mother.
14:51 Breivik should have told the committee: - Martyr idea was born when I moved home. But it was put on hold, then I would give myself a year martyr estate gift.
14:54 Sørheim Breivik explains that he said would be an activist and that the reason why the military section of the Compendium is at last is his first in 2009 found that he had to perform an action.
14:55 Breivik allegedly said he received 60 pages of documentation from other KT members in London. Then there has been little contact.
14:58 Sørheim go through the sixth meeting.
15:00 Sørheim says Breivik explained that they could keep morale up with smoke, good food and candy. Heksehyl will be especially good.
15:01 Sørheim is on page 131 in the report. The report is a total of 243 pages.
15:02 Breivik should have characterized it as irresponsible people who go around and infect others. He was able to purchase a face mask.
15:03 Sørheim says Breivik can not describe their own feelings.
15:04 She says Breivik had grandiose delusions.
15:04 Sørheim go through the seventh conversation with Breivik.
15:04 Breivik explained that he was going to Prague to buy weapons. The journey he describes, but were unable to buy weapons.
15:05 Breivik he says the fall of 2010 so far had not decided what his mission was for the action.
15:06 Sørheim read a page about what Breivik explains.
15:07 He considered taking over the NRK to send propaganda, Spenge Palace and detonate nuclear reactor in Halden. He considered a bomb blast at the congress of the Labor and Socialist Left. He went on to talk in the we-form.
15:08 He said that already in 2009 considered attacking the government building. Plan A was the bomber also Youngstorget and the Royal Palace, and to strike at the party's headquarters, Times, and Blitz.
15:09 Plan B was to blow up the convention to the SV, coupling conference or to execute traitors in Utøya.
15:09 Breivik should have imagined a giant explosion in the government building. 200-500 dead.
15:10 Breivik Utøya explained that was not concrete until about a month before surgery.
15:11 Breivik explained that it was a preventive attack. Most importantly, however, that the operation expressed his love for his people and country.
15:12 Sørheim: - He said he worked hard the last four weeks before the operation.
15:12 Breivik should have characterized it as a "risky project", but that he was willing to sacrifice himself for his people.
15:14 Breivik to have said that it was accepted by 50 percent dead civilians.
15:14 Breivik allegedly said that he never thought to turn or stop. Just to complete.
15:15 Sørheim: - He thinks he sacrificed himself for his people. Grandiose delusions.
15:16 Sørheim of Breivik's thoughts to be executed: - ideas are considered all-encompassing paranoid delusions.
15:17 Sørheim goes through eighth call, made 13 september. The theme would be from when he left the government quarter and the rest of 22 July.
15:17 Sørheim: - He said he had plenty of ammunition management.
15:18 Sørheim: - He responds by telling about themselves questions about the victims.
15:19 Sørheim says Breivik told them that he was almost on autopilot when he saw many swimming from Utøya: - I would kill as many as possible.
15:20 Breivik to have said that there is something nobler than to sacrifice himself for his people.
15:20 Breivik has stated that he was very proud of the operation and that he helped save his people.
15:21 Breivik told the committee that he believes between 15 and 50 percent would agree with him.
15:22 Breivik explained to them that KT was a war crimes tribunal and an organization for the indigenous people of Europe.
15:24 Sørheim: - He said he was in real war and believes there is ethnic cleansing in the country. He has extensive thoughts on infiltration. He believes that the named persons are traitors. He believes it is all-encompassing, paranoid delusion.
15:25 Sørheim go through call number nine. It should be about relationship to family, personal qualities and their own situation.
15:25 Sørheim: - He quickly moved on to talk about themselves.
15:26 To the experts shall Breivik said that he can not see that his people are raped and compares his SITUATION to Tsar Nicolas.
15:27 Breivik to the experts - I have sacrificed everything.
15:28 Sørheim: - He says he is extremely ambitious. He says he does not know any more perfect knight.
15:29 Breivik says that militant nationalists will take over in the UK, and that he will be released.
15:29 Breivik should the call be offered immunity to all A-and B-traitors until 1 January 2020.
15:32 Sørheim says Breivik said he expected that whoever answered the phone at the police would understand who he was when he introduced himself as commander of the Norwegian resistance movement.
15:32 Sørheim going through tenth call.
15:33 Sørheim: - He said that he, as commander of the Norwegian resistance movement wanted to be tried by military tribunal.
15:34 Breivik allegedly said that he has very strong psyche, but declining morale.
15:35 It was the results from this conversation that was used to fill two of the tests on Breivik from the psychotic.
15:36 Breivik says he has experienced the boost of pleasure. These may have lasted from seconds to a full day, or never experienced any of the phenomena.
15:36 Breivik says he has never experienced anxiety or panic.
15:37 Sørheim: - He confirmed psychotic grandiose ideas.
15:38 Breivik should have explained that it could go so far that the fire masters and union leaders had to be executed.
15:40 Breivik said he was suspected of wiretapping of his telephone in 2009.
15:40 Sørheim: - He has been afraid of radiation. He has used a face mask before. The phenomena considered paranoid delusions.
15:41 Sørheim: - He comes with several threats. He says it could lead to executions of 200,000 people.
15:41 Sørheim call goes through 11
15:41 The conversation should be about KT, own situation and Masonic Lodge.
15:42 Breivik said Frimurerlosjens principles coincide with KTS principles and has been an inspiration: - They are librarians for us.
15:45 Sørheim: - He says there has been little or no contact with the others in KT after 2002.
15:46 Sørheim: - All are willing to fight to the death, he said.
15:46 Sørheim: - Breivik says it is he who has defined who the traitor in the various categories.
15:47 Sørheim: - He says it is a burdensome responsibility.
15:48 Sørheim: - He says he made Norway a service and that it is possible to regret having killed righteous goals.
15:48 Sørheim: - My love for my people and my conscience is overdeveloped with me, he said.
15:49 Sørheim: - He said he was unique after World War II, as a pioneer in the European civil war.
15:50 Sørheim: - When asked about their own weaknesses, he said, letting his picture on a website, where he was ranked by the users to 4.9 and thus did not qualify for the beautiful.
15:51 Sørheim: - He said he was about to establish a new party, "the conservative league."
15:51 Sørheim: - He thinks he will be released if the coup, and he will have 0.5 percent chance to become the new regent in Norway.
15:52 Sørheim: - He will take the name crusader Sigurd II, if he becomes the new ruler.
15:54 Sørheim: - He says he is afraid that the United States or Russia to interfere in what is happening in Europe: - Do we have access to nuclear weapons, the bombs rain.
15:54 Sørheim: - He says it's likely that it will be the new ruler in 2020.
15:56 Sørheim: - He explained that he will form a Norway as the 50th century. The moral virtues to be reestablished. The liberal zones to be formed in three cities with marijuana and prostitution.
15:58 Sørheim: - He presents self-created words. The terms are considered neologisms.
15:58 Sørheim: - He thinks he is alive through the Director of KT. He believes he has the responsibility to decide who should live or die in Norway. It is considered grandiose delusions.
15:59 Sørheim say they have found the personality disorders.
15:59 Sørheim begin to explain the call number 12
16:00 Sørheim: - He said he would not take the MRI, because it would be an insult and the same as to say that all Islamists are brain damaged.
16:01 Sørheim: - He said he believed Osama bin Laden would never be asked to undergo an MRI scan.
16:02 Sørheim: - He says it was KT KT Europe and Norway which traded 22 July.
16:04 Sørheim: - He believes it is likely that the experts and the current board in Norway consciously will present his errors during the trial. He had homocidale thoughts in conversation and was paranoid.
16:05 Sørheim call goes through 13
16:05 Sørheim: - Experts Husby conducted the conversation alone.
16:06 Sørheim: - Breivik said they are willing to use any means. He submitted a claim to include a right-wing Blitz House to refrain from executions.
16:06 The court pauses until 1620.
16:19 It is unclear how long today's hearing will last.
16:23 The defendant is brought into the courtroom 250
16:24 It remains around 40 pages of the 243-page report.
16:24 Court actors are in place.
16:25 The court is set.
16:25 Sørheim: - We had originally read the summary, but can offer the right to jump over it.
16:26 Arntzen: - We may well skip it.
16:27 Sørheim go through the psychometric findings.
16:29 Sørheim is on page 215
16:29 Sørheim note that there is a summary of the report.
16:30 Sørheim go through the diagnostic assessment.
16:32 Sørheim go through Breivik's childhood and youth.
16:33 Sørheim: - It is not found any kind of behavioral or developmental disorder.
16:34 Sørheim: - There is no evidence of lack of impulse control, either in terms of verbal or physical acting out.
16:35 Sørheim: - He does not meet the criteria for any affective disorder.
16:35 Sørheim going through the period up to 2002.
16:36 Sørheim: - In the period 2002 to 2006, he had a growing isolation tendency of gradual declining functional ability.
16:37 Sørheim: - It is not excluded that the onset of symptoms was already in this period.
16:37 Sørheim: - From 2006, describes a certain change in his function.
16:38 Sørheim: - The symptoms are considered comprehensive breakdown.
16:39 Sørheim: - From 2010, he was concerned about infection, its own look, irritable and angry. He was also increasingly keen to communicate policy and history. Symptoms consider to be an expression of psychotic delusions.
16:39 Sørheim: - The experts think he's paranoid delusions.
16:40 Sørheim: - To use a face mask inside, expresses a paranoid delusion.
16:41 Sørheim: - He is not able to take the victims or the community's perspective in relation to actions.
16:41 Sørheim: - He appears with markand affektavflatning empathy and serious failure.
16:42 Sørheim: - He uses unusual begeper. They are considered as expressions of underlying, all-encompassing paranoid delusions.
16:43 Sørheim: - A term prescription, pioneer and new regent is an expression of underlying, grandiose delusions.
16:44 Sørheim: - The responsibility he feels to have the KT is the expression of bizarre, grandiose delusions.
16:45 Sørheim: - He revives along with historic war heroes. It is considered grandiose delusions. The same is true that he estimates himself as a possible new regent.
16:46 Sørheim points out that among other things, aside of the royal house and the Norwegians to the reserves as part of a bizarre, paranoid delusional system.
16:47 Sørheim say they believe he has a moderate association disorder.
16:49 Sørheim: - He is not able to see themselves from other than their own perspective.
16:50 Sørheim: - From 2010 he has acted in accordance with their psychotic symptoms.
16:51 Sørheim says that he has authority to execute the A, B and C traitors as grandiose and paranoid delusions.
16:51 Sørheim go through the symptoms that meet the requirements for a diagnosis.
16:54 Sørheim: - The experts found that he meets the criteria for diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia.
16:56 Sørheim: - He appears to be both suicidal and a real danger to others.
16:56 Breivik shakes his head under Sørheim review.
16:57 Sørheim: - The criteria for paranoid psychosis is not met.
16:59 Sørheim go through Breivik's use of drugs.
17:01 Sørheim: - He meets the criteria for diagnosis of "abuse of non-addictive substances" at the time of action 22 July.
17:02 Sørheim: - Overall, we find him at the time the action met the criteria for paranoid schizafreni and drop the use of non-addictive substances. At the time of the survey he fulfilled the criteria for paranoid schizophrenia.
17:04 Sørheim: - His symptoms and illness within that meets the criteria for the legal concept of psychosis, as it is intended to be used in criminal law section on mental incapacity.
17:06 Sørheim refers to actions prior to 22 July, including planning.
17:07 Sørheim: - The experts assume that Breivik was psychotic prior to the action, and that he was psychotic during the observation.
17:09 Sørheim: - The experts concluded that he was not believed to have been unconscious or having acted under a strong disturbance of consciousness.
17:16 Sørheim go through the option for the treatment of Breivik's symptoms.
17:17 Sørheim: - The experts consider that the risk for future violence if a fail to achieve symptom control as very high.
17:17 Breivik smiles while Sørheim explanatory.
17:18 Sørheim: - The conclusion is that he was psychotic during the actions and during observation afterwards. He was not unconscious and are not mentally utviklingshemmed. He acted under strong disturbance of consciousness.
17:20 Arntzen: - We have one final point. Shall we take a break to 1730?
17:20 Husby - I will start.
17:20 Husby: - The first theme is violence, thoughts and experience of being at war.
17:21 Husby: - We have noted how attentive his political attitudes.
17:22 Husby: - we read how he is the violent thoughts which is the ruling in his thought. The violence is essential and is more of a powerhouse.
17:22 Husby: - He has always been stimulated by the thought of his own death.
17:23 Husby: - He has for many years speculated on who should be killed.
17:23 Husby: - When he talked about the government building, he was almost excited to tell how many he could have killed.
17:24 Husby: - One can note the insight he described how he would execute Brundtland.
17:24 Husby: - It was a tremendous pressure when he talked about the murder plans and execution of the murders and possible murders in the future.
17:25 Husby: - He walked around the Utøya that he should be an inspection at a construction site.
17:26 Husby: - The experts have never claimed that he believes he is in conventional warfare, but for a long time before the 22 July, he would have had the experience of having been in danger. It is so tangible and real that he kills 77 people.
17:27 Husby: - He perceives a direct threat to himself and his people.
17:27 Husby: - He is not only stressed, but actively stimulated. He walks quickly into a phase where his grandositet takes over after his arrest.
17:28 Husby: - He is of the opinion that he operated in self-defense. We do not see it as a tactical statement, but an indication of the perceived danger.
17:29 Husby: - He can light up with a proud face when he talks about the mass killings in the future.
17:29 Husby describes changes in Breivik.
17:30 Husby: - a change in function, it is indisputable that he has a change. Until 2006 he lives for themselves and earned their own money. Since 2006 he lives in his bedroom and wash no clothes, and is no longer in paid employment.
17:31 Husby: - 3-4 cups of coffee per year is not a good friend contact.
17:31 Husby: - Friends describe a tame, pale, ripped friend.
17:32 Husby shows that changes are important diagnostic.
17:33 Sørheim delusion summarizes the key principles.
17:34 Sørheim: - After hearing his testimony in court, we think that his delusions can be summarized as follows: He thinks he will save us all from destruction in a battle against good and evil. He believes he has a call to decide who should live or die. It is forkánkret in a superior, non-existent organization.
17:35 Sørheim: - The Court has sometimes been disputed with the various manuals in psychiatry. We have related to ICD10s clinical descriptions.
17:37 Sørheim explains the criteria in the diagnosis.
17:43 Sørheim: - We believe he has been very concerned about the delusion of this responsibility in the network.
17:43 Sørheim: - In court he appears with a perceived authority.
17:44 Sørheim: - His conviction that he can decide who should live or die, is highly related to himself.
17:45 Sørheim reiterate that Breivik believes he has a call to decide who should live or die.
17:48 Sørheim undergo concepts.
17:54 Sørheim explains the differences between diagnosesystmer.
17:57 Sørheim: - We have a full overview of some of the words he used are in use. But we have our definition of reason.
17:57 Lippestad: - You maintain that it's neologisms?
17:57 Sørheim: - Yes, we do.
17:58 Arntzen: - Does this also the words used in subcultures on the internet?
17:58 Sørheim: - We have assumed that it is made of the patient, and by further questioning to cover holes in the patient.
17:58 Arntzen: - Is there not some words which will not be made by the patient?
17:59 Sørheim: - There may be words that are given new meaning.
18:03 Sørheim explain medical terms.
18:05 Sørheim: - His symptom profile with a combination of affektavflatning, persistent killing tanks, fasttømrede delusions, combined with a lack of detectable kognetiv shortcoming, without disturbing sense of betrayal, is unusual and makes him dangerous and potent.
18:05 Sørheim: - He regretted that no more were killed.
18:05 The court is adjourned.
18:06 The court set again at 09 in the morning. Then Sørheim Husby and answer questions from the court's players on their assessment of Breivik.