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  Putting it in perspective.
     1.  Everyone in the Northwest who uses hydro-power electricity pays between 5 to 30 percent of their electric bills for salmon and wildlife restoration, that is .05 to .30 cents of every dollar you spend on your electricity bill. This range depends upon a variety of conditions, and will average about .20 cents for everyone.
    2.  For every 10 salmon returning to spawn, 6 are taken by Ocean Harvest, 2 are reserved for "Tribal Nets", 1 is killed by Predators, and only 1 will have the chance to spawn. All this occurs before there are any dams to be encountered.
     3.   The Four Lower Snake River Dams collectively can power the City of Seattle and the surrounding areas, or could power both the states of Idaho and Montana together.
     4.  There are now more fish today  then when dams were first constructed on the Snake and Columbia rivers.  However, none of the hatchery fish are counted by any of our governmental agencies from all the continuing salmon restoration programs and all the monies that have been and are being spent.  If just 10% of hatchery fish were counted there would be very few threatened or endangered salmon listed as being endangered.
    5.   There has never been any credit give to dams helping salmon migrate.   In an UN-Dammed river the banks are covered with salmon that have beaten themselves to death trying to migrate and died trying.
     6.   There is a twin sister river called the Frazier River ( Nicknamed, The Salmon River ) in Canada that is UN-dammed and experiences almost the same salmon fluctuations as the Columbia River with out any dams.  This would indicate there are a lot of other factors that effect salmon returns before there are any dams to be encountered.
     There continues to be a movement in the Pacific Northwest to remove dams on the Snake and Columbia Rivers of salmon restoration. 

     Presently there has been a renewal of interest by some to remove the Lower Four Snake River Dams for salmon restoration and impacts on wild salmon.  Even though the salmon runs for the last few years have been at all time highs.  There are those that have a different view which appears to be based on a variety of thoughts such as misinformation, junk science, environmental extremism, religious extremism, mixed with political persuasion and pressure.
     This would destroy a major source of the regions carbon-free renewable hydro-power, flood and erosion control, irrigated farming, recreation, barge shipping and tax generation for these areas. These entities provide the major economic resources for these areas.

     Mainly because of politics, junk science, misinformation and lack of common sense there has been no consideration to address the needs and welfare of people that live and work in these areas. Their lives and jobs are dependent upon the many benefits these dams provide to everyone.

      We have come together to be pro-active in this issue and to educate, inform and build a data base of support for Save Our Dams.  In the late 90's we started the Save Our Dams campaign and with a lot of volunteers and a lot of help we collected over 880,000 signatures in support of saving the Four Lower Snake River Dams and we presented them to various congressional hearings about this issue. 
     To date we have not removed any of the dams on the Snake or Columbia rivers and it is because of your support that has made the difference in this debate.  If you still feel the same way, it is time to get re-engaged and become involved again to defeat this issue again because it will not going away by itself.

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Inslee support for possible dam-breaching
' unfathomable,' Sheldon says

Senator Tim Sheldon, 35th Legislative District.
December 7, 2017.

OLYMPIA – A new letter from Gov. Jay Inslee says Congress ought to get out of the way of a federal judge contemplating dam-breaching on the Snake River – an appalling position that threatens the Washington economy and the Northwest power grid, says Sen. Tim Sheldon, D-Potlatch.  Inslee’s letter, released this week, urges Congress to reject a bill that would prevent judicial interference with the operation of the Snake River dams.  “The governor clearly is siding with environmental groups and the tiny minority of people who think it would be a good idea to tear down the Snake River dams for the sake of fish,” Sheldon said. “Apparently he hasn’t gotten the message about the importance of these dams to the Washington economy, to power production, and the clean air we enjoy in the Pacific Northwest.  “We don’t need to do it to save the salmon and steelhead runs. We’ve seen a huge rebound over the last 10 years. We expect extremism in this debate, but when a person in a position of authority takes an irresponsible position, the nicest thing we can call it is unfathomable.”  H.R. 3144, sponsored by U.S. Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., and supported by members of both parties, is prompted by an environmental review being conducted by the agencies responsible for managing federal dams on the Snake and Columbia rivers. A federal judge in Portland has sided with environmental organizations, ordering the agencies to consider dam removal as a way to improve fish runs — and to test massive spills during migration season in the meantime.  The bill before the U.S. House of Representatives would pre-empt any order that would restrict power production or impede navigation on the Snake River. Structural modifications, actions, studies or engineering plans would be prohibited unless authorized by Congress.  In his letter to Congress, Inslee objects that the bill would prevent any disruption “even by a small amount. Sheldon sponsored a memorial in the state Senate this year urging Congress to pass such a bill. SJM 8004 passed the Senate 26-23, but the state House, dominated by urban Democrats, refused to consider it. Sheldon notes that the four Snake River dams contribute 5 percent of the Pacific Northwest’s power – the equivalent of three coal-fired power plants – and permit irrigation, recreation and barge traffic as far as Lewiston, Idaho. He also observes that federal Judge Michael Simon is not considering other major factors affecting fish populations – harvests, natural predators and ocean conditions that cannot be controlled.  “This issue needs to be decided at the highest level,” Sheldon said. “You can’t manage a hydro system this big and this important from the bench. Congress passed the laws that protect endangered species, and it paid for the dams in the first place. It is in the best position to decide whether we take a balanced view, or submit to environmental overkill.  You’d think a governor so concerned with our carbon footprint would be interested in preserving clean power in the Pacific Northwest. There really is no middle ground here, and he ought to know better. What’s he saying? Dam breaching is OK if we just take a little from the top?”

July 19 2017

Today, a panel of Ninth Circuit judges denied in its entirety, a challenge brought by NW Resource Information Center against the NW Power and Conservation Council (attached).  RiverPartners and PPC were intervenors in this litigation on the side of the Council.  NRIC had claimed that the Council’s 2014 fish and wildlife Program was arbitrary and capricious in several ways, including that the council had improperly incorporated federal hydro system operations from the federal agencies’ 2014 Biological Opinion and should have required more under its Power Act obligations.


The court disagreed and found including 2014 BiOp operations in the Program was proper.  The panel also supported the Council’s decision to not study Snake Dam removal as requested by the Nez Perce tribe noting the Council had already analyzed (and rejected) that proposal in its 2010 plan:  “This (2010) analysis concluded that removing these dams would be economically infeasible, which is a cognizable reason under the Power Act for rejecting a recommendation”.


And, on (Oregon’s) proposal to spill more the court said:  “As to the state of Oregon and Nez Perce Tribe’s proposal regarding experimental dam spill, the Program included extensive discussion about why this recommendation was rejected due to its methodological problems and its potential for causing a violation of the Clean Water Act by increasing the quantities of dissolved gas in the river, both of which are cognizable reasons under the Power Act for rejecting a recommendation.”  


This win establishes some good case law that should be helpful down the road in discouraging these types of suits.  I’ve also attached, for your enjoyment, a “winning” picture you can pin on your office door --  as I will!


Terry Flores, Executive Director

Northwest RiverPartners

May 1, 2017, Washington Times.

U.S. hydropower: Room to grow in renewable energy

production and water storage.

Hydropower: the only 24/7 renewable resource.

Thanks Rep, Dan Newhouse, and also Dave and Pat.



March 21, 2017.  The Spokesman-Review.

PBS TV series documents ' Way of the Columbia'.


 In 1992, one lone Sockeye Salmon returned to Redfish Lake, “Lonesome Lary.” Explore the efforts undertaken by the Idaho Fish and Game…

    KSPS TV has started a new 13 episode series on PBS called " Way of the Columbia ". This started April 1st at 5 PM on KSPS, it is my understanding they will air one episode a week on Saturday at 5pm.  The first one is called " Not so Lonesome, Redfish lake episode " and aired April 1, 2017. It is also available on the following Youtube link:


     My only issue with the 1st episode is that there is no reference to Idaho Department of Fish and Game and their on going continuous practice of poisoning Salmon in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's.  This was done to try and turn the lakes and streams into Pristine trout fishing areas for tourism and the related economics of the sport trout fishing economy for these areas.  This required the killing of the Salmon as they eat trout and took habitant and were considered of little value at the time. For more information about this, go to:

Mar 16, 2017.

    For the record, Columbia river and Snake river dams and their related reservoir's DO NOT create greenhouse gases as many have claimed and they DO NOT have a carbon footprint.

Columbia & Snake River Reservoirs Not Associated with High Greenhouse Gas Emissions (Northwest Power & Conservation Council)

Council finds the region's federal hydrosystem unlikely to emit high levels of methane gas

     Many of you have been asking me were are we headed now. Basically, the "Judge has requested spill for fish" which if you know anything about spilling water and nitrogen levels, this is the kiss of death for fish. I have been setting back and letting this play out with the current Perverted Legal system we have and also the new Administration, and I do not believe they are one and the same. From my perceptive this is a an opportunity to take a deep breath and to productively play out the science and facts as we know it. Easy to say, hard to do. I want to thank everyone that has taken the time to give feedback and testimony to this issue. " Yess the squeaky wheel does get the grease and with your continued support and commitment we will roll the wheels in the right direction.

March 27,2017, Tri-Cities Hearld.

Judge: More water for fish, less for power from

Columbia, Snake dams.

July 2, 2017.

     In May of last year U.S. District Judge Michael Simon requested the agencies to revue all reasonable options for achieving the goals of the hydro-system, " in order to minimize the system's negative impacts ". The first step in this three-year review process are 15 public "scoping" meetings across the region-- also called NEPA meetings. (NEPA) - National Environmental Policy Act.

     This ruling basically puts the Snake River Dam Breaching options back on the table. I would encourage you to come and submit testimony in person or by letter as this plays out. 

The video at the bottom of this link is very good.

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     "Patagonia's new strategy is to say that southern resident orcas are threatened because of the Lower Snake River Dams are 'reducing the salmon runs'.  This is the biggest piece of crap argument of them all! "

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     For the past six years the annual return on this investment was over $200 million of clean electricity. These dams provide enough energy to power 676,000 homes a year while avoiding the 7,317 kilotons of carbon dioxide emissions a coal plant would produce.
Check out the 10 year, Last year, and Current years count which is at all time highs. 

“All the gloves come off,” Gentry said, “Yes, there will definitely be shut offs to the agriculture community.”
“It holds something for a lot of people,” Mallams said. “It shows a significant amount of taming the West, taming the rivers, using our natural resources for the betterment of mankind, not just for fish.”  
  Top 10 Best Dam Resources:
( Youtube 15 Min ) 
2. VIDEO = Dam Good Reasons  ( Vimeo 4 Min )
( Pacific Northwest Waterways Association )
(Pacific Northwest Waterways Association )

 ( Kris Johnson, Association of Washington Business, May 31, 2015, Wenatchee Daily World )   

Follow these 5

steps to make a difference.
 1.  Sign Letter of support for the Lower 4 Snake River Dams and share and circulate the support letter  and related information.
       2.  Boycott Patagonia by not  doing any business with them or any-other businesses that sell their sporting goods such as REI and others, until they stop all funding of removing the Four Lower Snake River Dams efforts and activities.
       3.  Display  the Save Our Dams bumper sticker.
        4.  Learn more about this issue.  I would suggest that you look at the following areas on the left side of this page.  Start with the 
4 F.  " Videos "
4 G. Floods after dams "
 4 I. " Salmon "
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Debunking the 
Myths and Factoids

and setting the record straight.

"The rest of the Story"
( Coined phrase from Paul Harvey )

     This website is here to help inform, educate and correct misinformation about dams on the Snake and Columbia rivers, as well as build a network of support. 

     The Four Lower Snake River Dams are not Grand Coulee Dam by any means, they are on a totally different magnitude and scale.  However, the history, justification and needs are collectively the same today for the Four Lower Snake River Dams as it was for Grand Coulee Dam.

   There are those that will continuously downplay, trivialize, devalue and discredit all the benefits that these dams provide to all of us.  They continue to make up "myths " (An idea or story that is believed by many people but is not true ) and fabricate  " factoids "  ( An invented fact believed to be true because it appears in print ) that mislead the public by twisting, distorting and manipulating the facts for their agendas.  Including ignoring the public's safety, health and welfare from the benefits from flood control that these dams provide.  They offer alternatives when studied make no sense at all and will negatively effect our current quality of life and degrade our lifestyle as we know it today and far into the future.