Radio Interviews with 9/11 Researchers

From "TruthQuest with Melodee" Program, with co-host Dr. Eric Karlstrom


KHEN Interview archives: 

Dr. Judy Wood, KHEN interview:  7/14/09 

What Really Happened to the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001:” 
Or “Take Back Your Mind”

    Former professor of mechanical engineering, Dr. Judy Wood is an expert at optical interferometry who has taught courses in experimental stress analysis and strength of materials testing.   She has over 60 technical articles in refereed journals.  She is probably the scientist/9/11 researcher who is best qualified to unravel what happened to the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.  Please refer to the photos on her website ( as you listen to the interview. 

    In her research, Dr. Wood has analyzed at least ten thousand photos of Ground Zero taken from a wide variety of sources since the morning of September 11, 2001.  She has identified the source and date of each photo.  These photos come from FEMA, the Library of Congress, many newspapers and internet websites, and many private individuals, including herself.  

    Her goal has been to analyze the photos in order to determine what happened.  “The data tells you what happened.  Once you know what happened, the rest falls into place.”  Dr. Wood became involved in 9/11 research, in large part, because her background and expertise in experimental mechanics and optical interferometry was ideally suited to understanding what happened at the World Trade Center.  Her expertise includes looking at physical phenomena with interferometry to determine material properties and understand why materials fall apart.   She states that she hadn’t known that Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) existed, but the data told her that they did.

Wikipedia defines “interferometry” as “the technique of diagnosing the properties of two or more lasers or waves by studying the pattern of interference created by their superposition.”

The U.S. Army and Technology Master Plan of 1997 (ASTMP 1997) notes that Directed Energy Weapons (DEW)include laser, high power radio frequency (HPRF), and particle beam technologies.  HPRF technology is frequently called high power microwave (HPM) or RF-Directed Energy.”

    On September 11, 2001, Dr. Wood had just begun her third year as an Assistant Professor at Clemson University.  On that morning, she noticed that something wasn’t right.  She looked around at her colleagues and she wanted to say: “This is a joke, right, an Orson Welles-style “war of the worlds” fake attack?”  She quickly noticed that no one wanted to talk about it.   But she kept asking questions.  For example, “why did the WTC buildings unravel like a sweater?”  She called her mother who lived near the Pentagon.  Her mother looked outside and saw no fighter jets in the skies over Washington DC.  So from the very beginning, Dr. Wood and her mother figured that this must be some kind of hoax.  

    She didn’t want to take on 9/11 research at that time, and instead, focused on her career, hoping and expecting that others would do it.  But after the 2004 national election had more "voting irregularities" than the 2000 election, when we were told they would fix these problems, she realized that “the grown ups weren’t going to fix it.”  Immediately after the 2004 “selection,” Dr. Wood began her research in earnest into what actually happened at the WTC on Sept. 11, 2001.  At the time, her mother warned her that if she spoke out she wouldn’t have a career.  She answered that if she didn’t speak out, nobody would have a career and we won’t have a planet.  The technology that was demonstrated on 9/11 has unbelievable power to perhaps destroy this planet.  So at 1:32 am on election night (when “the numbers flipped”), Dr. Wood started researching 9/11 and speaking out.

    By looking at the evidence first, Dr. Wood discovered many categories of “weird phenomena.”  She continued categorizing these weird phenomena, taking careful note of each and every detail.  One phenomenon that grabbed her attention was the way the molecules, that had been attracted to each other, suddenly repelled each other.  While looking up information about the Casimir Effect, she happened on the website of John Hutchison, where she saw photographs that illustrated all of the phenomena she had cataloged from the WTC event.  She then realized that every one of the phenomena illustrated in the “Hutchison effect” is duplicated at the World Trade Center.  Hutchison has spent his career trying to replicate the work of the great inventor, Nikola Tesla.  Essentially, what we see at the WTC, then, is the same physics, the same mechanism, as the Hutchison Effect.  So this is a “proof of concept” demonstration for this type of phenomenon.

    The first anomalous phenomena she discovered was what she calls “toasted cars.”   In fact, Dr. Wood has developed a whole new vocabulary- such as “toasted cars”- in order not to bias her perceptions and conclusions.  She states, “If you don’t know what the mechanism is, don’t make an assumption about it.”  Thus, she refers to “fumes” rather than “smoke” because “smoke” implies it was caused by fire.

    There are other powerful pieces of evidence that also link 9/11 with the Hutchison Effect.  One is what she calls “fuzzballs.”  About a block north of the WTC complex, about fifteen minutes after the North Tower “went poof”  (it didn’t collapse, she says, rather it just “went poof” and “went away”), she notes that you can see clear blue sky in the photo.  So all the dust had to have settled out of the air in 15 minutes.  However, in later pictures you see fine dust (“fuzz balls”) ascending into the atmosphere.  This tells us that first coarse particles landed and then they continued breaking down to finer and finer dust (“fuzz balls”).   In fact, the material at the WTC is still breaking down today. 

    Another weird example of this is that at the Bankers Trust Building on Liberty Street across from Tower 2, there was a semicircular arc cut out of the front, with a weird crinkled up-beam left dangling in the middle of this fifteen-story gash.  Photos of Bankers Trust a year later showed they replaced the beams.   Then a year or so after that, they began taking the building apart.  Why would they repair a building only to demolish it later?  Because of the toxicity and size of this building, they could not use a wrecking ball or explosives.  They had to take it apart, piece by piece.  When they got to the previously damaged area, the beams looked rusty, as if they had been at the bottom of the ocean for 100 years.  All of them had a thick layer of deep orange color of what she calls “furry rust.”  Perhaps this explains why they have only taken apart half of the building in the last eight years, and only one story in the past year. The material is still breaking down.

    Even today, truckloads of dirt are being hauled in and out of the Ground Zero site area.  The dirt is apparently supposed to smother the fumes (“fumes”) and absorb them, so they can be removed.  

    Another strange observation from the photos: Immediately after the WTC 1 and 2 “went away” there was no “rubble pile.”  In fact, the  “pile” was essentially at ground level.  So there was not nearly enough material on the ground to account for the mass of buildings that “went away.”  In fact, the photos show that the two 110-story buildings, each of which weighed about 500,000 tons, were “dustified” in mid-air and initially left no rubble pile.  (Dr. Wood notes that the new process that occurred on 9/11 deserves a new word: “dustification.”)   However, photos show that in the subsequent several months, the dirt and rubble kept growing as dirt was hauled onto the site.

     Please refer to Dr. Wood’s website:  Scroll down to the photo in Figure 4, which shows the view looking east from West Street across the remains of WTC 1.  This photo was taken by FEMA, probably on the morning of 9/11.  It shows an ambulance and a few steel columns.  The ambulance is parked right in front of where the building once stood, and there’s no building.  But there’s lots of paper.  And you can look through the entire complex at ground level.     

(Figure 4,

This photographic evidence, then, refutes the explanation of many in the 9/11 Truth Movement that the buildings “collapsed” via “controlled demolition” and “bombs in the building.”   First, Dr. Wood doesn’t see (or say) that the buildings “came down” at all.   There wasn’t enough time for that.  Rather, they turned to dust and “went away.”  The ground shook for 8 seconds when the North Tower “went away.”  In a vacuum, it would take 9.22 seconds for the roof to hit the ground if the building came down at the speed of gravity.  Why then did the ground shake for only 8 seconds?  Well, as Dr. Wood notes, dust doesn’t make a thud when it hits.  So if you can turn the whole building into dust, it will float away.

    In a controlled demolition, you cut the building and slam it to the ground to break it up.  So, if it was controlled demolition, you would have to have a much bigger seismic signal.  With each of the WTC towers, you had 30 times more potential energy than the Seattle King Dome, which was brought down by controlled demolition and which made a 2.3 seismic impact.  And yet the seismic impacts of WTC 1 and 2 were about the same or less than that of the King Dome. 

    Also, if WTC 1 and 2 slammed to the ground, what did they slam onto?  The seven stories of basement beneath the buildings stayed mostly intact.  The basement is below the water table and sea level.  It is protected by a cement retaining wall to keep the water out.  This retaining wall did not spring a leak on 9/11.  In fact, the majority of the damage to “the bathtub” was done by earth moving equipment a day or two after 9/11.  So, in fact, the mass of the two 110-story buildings never slammed to the ground.   Rather, the Towers were “dustified”- as demonstrated by the several inches of powder that covered southern Manhattan. 

    What about the 47-story Building 7, which “came down” at 5:20 pm on 9/11?   After analyzing the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report, Dr. Wood submitted material to NIST.  In fact, NIST incriminated themselves in their last report.   People were focused on a false choice between two main hypotheses: NIST’s “thermal expansion” hypothesis and the “bombs in the building”/controlled demolition hypothesis.  To disprove the “bombs in the building” hypothesis, NIST maintained that WTC 7 came down in a whisper-quiet collapse.  In their videos, they picked up low-level conversations from down the street, but no loud noises from the “collapse” of Building 7.  However, Dr. Wood notes that this data also refutes NIST’s own “thermal expansion” hypothesis because if you had 47, football-field size floors crashing down at once, this should have sounded like thousands of raining dump trucks.  Instead, the seismic impact (0.6 on the Richter scale) was about the same as that of a jack hammer- barely discernable from background noise.  Yet the building had 6 times the potential energy of the King Dome, which made a 2.3 Richter scale impact. 

    Dr. Judy Wood has brought a legal case against the NIST contractors for fraud against the American people in a Qui Tam court case that is ongoing.   The basis of her case is science fraud.  Congress mandated NIST to study “why and how the WTC collapsed.”  NIST hired private contractors to help with the study, using taxpayer money.  The people in these companies were well qualified and in Dr. Wood’s opinion, knew better than to endorse the fraudulent science presented in the NIST report.  Dr. Wood first filed a Request for Corrections with NIST, demonstrating to NIST that their conclusions violated the laws of physics.  In response, NIST admitted to Dr. Wood that they did not analyze the "collapse," so therefore their conclusion could not have violated the laws of physics for something they had not analyzed.   That is, NIST admitted their report was fraudulent. 

The report is entitled “NIST NCSTAR 1 – Final Report on the Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers”
p. xxxv (p. 37): “The specific objectives were: "Determine why and how WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed following the initial impacts of the aircraft and why and how WTC 7 collapsed;”

    She notes that Underwriters Lab made four mock-ups of a floor of one of the towers, put them on fire, and could not get any of them to fail.  Yet they signed off on the report saying that fire did it.  Normal office fires burn at around 500 degrees F.   These tests were run at 1100 to 1300 degrees F. for two hours or longer and none of them failed to support load.  The actual 1975 WTC fire did not fail to support load either.  And there were no sprinklers in the building at that time.  The people working with the contractors knew these things and yet signed off on a report that said fire caused the “collapse” of WTC 7. 

    Dr. Wood noted that some of the private contractors on the NIST report develop and manufacture Directed Energy Weapons.  She explained to NIST that this was a conflict of interest.  These companies include Applied Research Associates (ASA) and Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC).   Some 23 corporations are listed as culpable for the fraud in Dr. Wood’s lawsuit.  Most of these corporations are members of the military-industrial complex and their employees include a high percentage of individuals with high levels of security clearance. 

    In addition to the “toasted cars,” other the anomalous evidence includes:

1)    Weird fires burning spontaneously all over
2)    Papers strewn everywhere on the streets, etc.
3)    Eyewitnesses describing the dust cloud as being cooler than ambient temperature, and yet also saying the dust ate away at their skin.  They couldn’t wash it off.
4)    Cylindrical holes in the streets and buildings.  Most are about 24 feet in diameter. (About 50% of the mass of Building 6 is completely missing and on the photos, it looks like someone took a big post-hole digger and took out cylindrical chunks down to ground level.)  Similarly, there are cylindrical holes in Buildings 5 and 4.  Most of Building 4 is completely missing.  This is right under where the top of Tower 2 should have fallen.
5)    Liberty Street had cylindrical holes that go down 60 feet.
6)    Puddles of water at the bottom of the hole in Building 2.
7)    Circular holes in windows.

Again, one can view these anomalies at (the “Aha Photos” webpage).  

    What she has come to understand is that all these effects can be created by interfering different kinds of energy.  John Hutchison has experimented extensively with interfering different energy fields.  These experiments have created holes in solid aluminum bars.

    Windows with circular holes are seen in Section G of Dr. Wood’s “Aha Photos” webpage.  This phenomenon is a hallmark sign of a longitudinal wave.  This is like the longitudinal bunching up that a slinky makes, which is different than the sinusoidal wave that a jump rope makes.  This could be accomplished by interfering microwaves with electromagnetic fields.  Evidence for this includes the “toasted cars” (Section F) where half the car is in perfect shape and the other half is destroyed.   See Figures 39 and 40b below and in     

(Figures 39 and 40b,

 Microwaves do different things to different materials.  Whereas microwaves heat water, they do not heat or burn paper, for example.   The most bizarre thing is we see paper emerging out of the dust cloud.  It is not affected the same as everything else.  

    Different kinds of energy are getting interfered.  It’s most important to see what the effects are.  In all likelihood, you have two or more energy fields being interfered in the presence of a catalyst.

    On the top of the cliff notes webpage, there is a video showing steel beams dissolving in mid-air.  In Figures 32 and 33, we see video of a core column turning to dust. 


    Below these figures on this “Aha photos” page is a section on “Lather.”  Figures 34, 36, and 37 show fumes pouring out of one face of WTC Building 7.  

(Figures 34, 36, and

There are white fumes and black fumes.  Dr. Wood speculates that the photos show Building 7 coming apart- that molecular dissociation is occurring under some kind of energy field.  Recall that Building 7 did not actually fall to the ground.  “Lather” or fumes were coming out of Building 7 all afternoon.  So perhaps this explains why there was so little sound associated with building’s demise.

    Hurricane Erin!  If we look at Figures 115 and 116 (taken at the end of October 2001), we see fumes rising from the buildings at Ground Zero.   

 (Figure 115,

If we go down on the page to the weather section, Figure 170 shows these “fumes” drifting high into the atmosphere. 

 (Figures 170 and 171,

 As Dr. Wood examined these space images, she noticed a huge hurricane, Hurricane Erin, located just 
off the coast of New York City on the morning of September 11 (Figure 171 above).  Space imagery 
shows some distinctive features of this particular hurricane:  It has a pentagonal-shaped eye with what 
looks like worm-tracks in the middle. 

 (Hurricane Erin, 9/11/01, Note strange shape of eye and "worm tracks" in eye)
These are probably markers that indicate weather control was involved.  It is particularly notable that this 
hurricane was not mentioned or shown on the morning news.   And yet it was approximately the same 
size as Hurricane Katrina. 

    This hurricane would have posed a large threat to the area in terms of potential storm surges.   Wind speed and air pressure of the Hurricane were constant for about 24 hours surrounding the time when the buildings “went poof” (Figure 174).  The hurricane slowed down and got bigger just prior to the morning of 9/11.  This hurricane would have produced large energy fields that extended outward in all directions and thus, could explain many of the field effects seen on Dr. Wood’s photos.  We have reports of thunder at JFK, Newark, and LaGuardia airports.  We all remember TV reports that there was a very clear sky on the morning of 9/11. 

    Hurricanes are like super-sized Tesla coils.  Tesla coils produce energy fields.  You can turn electricity into magnetism and vise versa.   You can develop a magnetic field or an electric field.   Tornadoes, hurricanes, lightning all produce field effects.  For example, we have reports of cars sitting on telephone poles.   Probably, these have been gently set down after levitation.  Also, we know straw can go through trees or window glasses.  One characteristic of the Hutchison Effect is that dissimilar materials fuse into each other.   Some people call this jelification.  Huge steel beams are bent like a horseshoe.   We see steel columns bent around a vertical axis (Figure 128).  These effects are not from overload.  

    The Hutchison Effect, shown in Figures 148 and 149, has solid bars of aluminum that look like they exploded from the inside out.  

    Dr. Wood has featured a quote by Lenin on her website:   Vladimir Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation:

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."


Theodor Herzl:        "We will lead every revolution against us."

   Dr. Wood speculates that the cover-up of 9/11 is even better planned than the actual event.   The only way out of this, she believes, is for each of us to come to our own understanding of what happened.  We need to empower others to think for themselves rather than just being told what to think by others.  The 9/11 Truth Movement, like many groups, imposes a certain form of group-think , .   In this sense, it is like a cult.  But we need to ask:  Why is it so important for them to attack Dr. Wood’s work?   There is extreme opposition to her research.   For example, Dr. Wood was just recently dropped from the www.patriotsquestion911 website.  

    One explanation for this kind of regulation of thought involves economic control of what kinds of research get funded and what kinds of research don’t get funded.  Dr. Wood’s “Whistleblower Information” webpages quotes Dwight Eisenhower’s farewell address of January 17, 1961, in which he states:

“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present- and is gravely to be regarded.”  

      It is human nature to be influenced by our peers, to succumb to group think.  But we need to regain our independence of thought.   Many experts will say, essentially, “just trust me.”  And many very busy people are likely to believe the so-called experts.  However, on her “WTC cliff-notes” webpage, Dr. Wood lists 41 different characteristics and phenomena that need to be explained in order to understand what happened at the WTC.  Why are otherwise undamaged cars upside down?  Why are there round holes in windows?  Why didn’t the debris from the 47-story Building 7 even reach across the street?  Why did the two main dust clouds of WTC 1 and 2 stop suddenly as if they hit a wall and then begin rising?  Why, if thermite melts things rather than pulverizing them in mid-air, are so many 9/11 Truth Movement experts claiming thermite caused the destruction of the Twin Towers?
    One clue is the behavior of water.  Water, when heated, expands 1600 times in volume. Under the right conditions, it is essentially an explosive.  What drove Dr. Wood to Hutchison’s stuff was looking at the tipping top of WTC Building 2, which looked like it was turned to building steam.  It looked as if, all of a sudden, the particles were repelling each other.  She started doing research on the Casimer force , which is described on John Hutchison’s site.  The Casimer force is the attractive force between things on a very small, atomic scale.   It seems like what happened is that the particles repelled each other and came apart via molecular dissociation. 

    On Dr. Wood’s home page (, you can also view various talks she has given, such as the talk she presented at a 9/11 conference in Madison, Wisconsin in 2007, entitled: “The New Hiroshima.”    

    The “jumpers” are a touchy issue.  Dr. Wood doesn’t believe that many if any of them chose to jump.  For example, the 6’8” guy on the 105th floor had already taken off his shirt and was removing his pants even while holding onto the building with one hand and one foot.  If it’s hot, your clothing would protect you from the fire.   If there was a fire, you’d want to get the clothes wet.  You also see many other people with their shirts off in the photos.  Could there have been an energy field in there that affected water more than dry skin and dry clothing?  At first, Dr. Wood was thinking of the military’s Active Denial system.  If your clothing is wet, microwaves are even more painful.  The military has developed microwaves that give you the sensation of burning.  (ETK note: Near or deep infrared radiation can also accomplish this).  It is much worse if the skin is wet.  

    We now have experience with what microwaves do to human beings.  This would explain why someone would be dangling off the 105th floor with one hand and taking their pants off.  They are very likely feeling intense heat at the surface of their skin.  There is also testimony of people exploding before they get to the ground.  There are some other weird things going on.  Some testimony (on the “cliff notes” page) indicates Firefighters’ oxygen packs (Scott packs) exploded, perhaps due to dissolving from microwaves.  Other pressurized tanks, including water tanks, toilet tanks, hair spray cans, etc. could also cause explosions.  These phenomena then could have been mistaken for “bombs in the building.”  If there were actual bombs in the building, adjacent buildings would be look pock-marked and sandblasted.  They do not. 

   Dr. Wood uses the acronym, DEW, to describe this Energy, that is Directed, and is used as a Weapon.  So, by definition, it cannot be "the Hutchison Effect," as John Hutchison does not use this physics as a weapon.

    How does this DEW processes qualify as free energy? It didn’t take a tremendous amount of energy to carry this out.   There is another mechanism by which energy comes out of the material.   If we have the ability to discover this other mechanism, think of all the peaceful uses that could be found for this.  Tesla apparently wanted to beam free energy to the world.  He wanted to benefit mankind- but realized the technologies would be used for destructive as well as for constructive purposes.  

    We need to find a different way to make and distribute energy.  But as you know, he who controls the energy controls the people.   Free energy could be the solution to the so-called energy crisis. 

    So who done 9/11?  Dr. Wood, does not know who done it, saying that this is not her concern.  However, she does emphasize that before you can identify WHO done "it," you must first define WHAT was done.  It is not a given.  Speculating, she gave various scenarios other than the one that says the U.S. government did it.  For example, if a handful of people wanted to take over the U.S., how would they outdo the U.S. military?  That wouldn’t work.  Instead, they could get access to the technology to poof the towers, then, getting behind the 9/11 Truth Movement, they could get the American people to destroy their own government.  Then, they could just walk in.  That’s what she doesn’t want to see happen. 

    Another scenario: What if the U.S. government does not have this technology?  Are they going to want others to know that they don’t have it?  Speculating, Dr. Wood suggests that most groups of gangsters know their competition.  If you look into history, this kind of information is available in books. 

    So, if something like this is what took place, how would you expect the U.S. government to behave?   Would they acknowledge it if they had such technology?  Would they acknowledge it if they did not have such technology?  This may be the most crucial issue in her legal case that no one is talking about.  What would it say if the court accepted to hear her case, but made the hearing "classified"?  Is it even possible for the courts to deal with such a case? 

    But the fact remains that Dr. Wood’s NIST lawsuit names 23 private contractors employed by the U.S. government.   These contractors would have to be involved in the cover-up at least, and funded by U.S. taxpayers to do it.  

    In conclusion, the whole world has suffered from 9/11.  Ignoring it does not help make it go away.  Some of the explanations we’ve been given are laughable.   So Dr. Wood encourages everybody to think for themselves.  The future of this country, this planet, this species, and all others, depends on people thinking for themselves.

Dr. James Fetzer, Emeritus Professor of Philosophy of Science, University of Wisconsin, co-founder of Scholars of 911 Truth ( ), and author of The 9/11 Conspiracy: The Scamming of America

3/25/08 Interview. click on Dr. James Fetzer 3/25/08

Many professional groups have now organized themselves around the 9/11 issue: These include the American Society of Civil Engineers, Pilots for 9/11 Truth (, and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (  ).  .  And the Patriots Question 911 website ( ) includes over 1000 experts.  Members of Japanese parliament and a former premier of Italy have now also declared that 9/11 was an inside job.   The Tokyo International War Crimes Tribunal (2004) found that 9/11 was a crime against humanity through the use of exotic weapons and as a pretext for illegal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.  

Of 236 World Trade Center (steel beam) samples analyzed by NIST (National Institute for Standards and Technology), 235 were not exposed to temperatures above 500 degrees F.   This completely disproves official government story.  So we know that claims of molten metal at the site are dubious.   Also, there were explosions in the basements of the WTC 1 and 2 some 17 seconds before the alleged planes hit.  Absolutely no remains of 1100 of the bodies were found at all.  In now seems that much of the photographic evidence was faked, as it was in the JFK assassination case (the Zaprueder Film).  As per the findings of engineering professor, Dr. Judy Wood, it seems WTC Buildings 1 and 2 came apart by molecular dissociation.  

08/28/07  Interview: click on Dr. James Fetzer 08/28/07

Dr. Fetzer gives excellent summary of what the 9/11 Truth Movement has learned to date.  He discusses the conference he hosted in Madison, WI on August 3 to 5, 2007: The Science and Politics of 9/11: What's Controversial and What's Not.  It’s easy to disprove the official government theory of jet fuel fires bringing down the WTC buildings.  Jet fuel is used in airplanes, yet the burning fuel does not cause the tanks to melt.  If it did, the planes would be falling out of the sky.  Boeing 757s and 767s fly are designed to fly about 600 mph at 35,000’ elevation.  The government story says these same jets were flying some 572 mph at much  lower elevations- in order to hit the 82nd floor of WTC it would have to be below about 1000’.  And at the Pentagon, the Boeing was supposedly flying this fast some 10’ above the ground.  In  fact, at lower elevations, Boeings have to travel much slower or they fall apart due to air turbulence.   

If you don’t have the planes, you don’t have hijackers and you don’t have a pretext for a war on terror.  In fact, there were no 19 hijackers, there were no gravity collapses.  

Check the webites of Ace Baker- , the Park forman video, the September Clues videos, the CNN ghost plane video (a building is missing- 19 Rector Street- in downtown Manhattan in the videos shown on 9/11.  

Alfred Webre:  International Jurist,  Frst inteview (11/28/07):  click on Alfred Webre 11/28/07.

Alfred Webre discusses The 9/11 Independent Prosecutors Act, the 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal, the 9/11 Strategic Deception Desk and black budget warfare.  80% of World Trade Center buildings were transformed into nanno-particles within seconds through directed energy weapons (HAARP; land- or air- or space-based), and/or possibly 4th generation nuclear weapons.  No planes were used at any site.  Original video broadcasts were edited to insert plane images.  9/11 truth movement is infiltrated by operatives as in the FBI Counter-Intelligence Programs (COINTELPRO) of the 60’s and 70’s.  Mind-control techniques used to create “brown-shirt-like” groups to attack anything and anyone and create a “controlled opposition.”  9/11 movement is not gaining traction because controlled opposition movement is planting false facts and mind control techniques and (electronic) gang stalking are used to create a matrix of behavior and thought.   Mass consciousness.  Targeted Individuals (TI) are victims of covert governance.  HAARP can be used for global mind control.  David and Nelson Rockefeller, as agents of House of Rothschild and City of London, built North American Racketeering War Crimes Organization.  Net worth of the House of Rothschild is $100 trillion.  Long-term plan of IWCRO (International War Crimes Racketeering Organization) aka Anglo-American-Neo-Zionist block is de-population, a world society of slave-wage earners under a banking elite.  War is an industrial activity.  Rockefellers funded and founded the World Eugenics Movement (that Hitler used), creating population elimination camps.  All wars are aimed at depopulation.  Collapse of US dollar could trigger Martial Law.  Bank Panic of 1907 privatized the US dollar.  “Eschelon Countries” own the currency and therefore people are their private property.  After the dollar collapses, the Amero will be proposed.  All China has to do is sell their dollars- manufactured hyper-inflation.  Middle class could become paupers.  Goal of City of London is to destroy all democracies and establish a worldwide economic classs under the bloodline elites.  Afghanistan was carpet bombed with DU (depleted uranium)- equivalent of low-level nuclear war.  Same repeated in Iraq.  Medical effects- increased diabetes, autism, mental illness, birth defects).  There is a diabolical intent of “The Plan” is like a Doomsday Machine.  AI (artificial intelligence) matrix bent on ecocide, genocide and omnicide.  We have artificial Permanent War Economy with 192 member nations.  We need to create alternative institutions for safety net.  Exopolitics. 

2nd Interview.  (4/22/08). click on Alfred Webre 4/22/08.

At Kuala Limpur International War Crimes Tribunal, Webre identified three interlocking branches of the International War Crimes Racketeering Organization (IWCRO) as 1) Yale Skull and Bones, CFR and affiliated (US) networks, 2) UK/House of Windsor networks, and 3)  International neo-Zionist networks (City of London banks/House of Rothschilds).  War is an industrial activity and product of the artificial permanent war economy.   This dominates world economy.  Rockefeller syndicate (worth $10 trillion) and affiliated networks are principle North American contact of House of Rothschild, worth $100 trillion.  Both are crime syndicates.  AIDS was developed as a bio-weapon at Fort Detrick Maryland and brought to Southern Africa in a vaccine against small pox.  The UK is capital of IWCRO.   City of London- 677 acres in heart of London ruled by committee of 12 banks, mediated by House of Rothschild.  Rothschilds responsible for Zionist policy, genocide against Palestinians, theocratic persecution, etc.  Rothschilds own 80% of world’s uranium.  Israel is front for City of London at the political level.  Orders from City of London are come down through Israel.  Candidate Jimmy Carter promised to open up files on extra-terrestrials.  In 1977, the DOD terminated the project. The New World Order is about spiritual warfare- to keep the rest of us from reaching our full potential.  Discussion of exopolitics- .  ( and   - the political science of outer space.  There is an “E.T. Truth Embargo” managed by Kissinger/Rockefeller.  Parallel universes and dimensions, string theory.  The US has $1.5 trillion/year black budget.  Zero point energy would transform our world to free energy world.  Exo-politics could liberate our planet from the IWCRO and create a more positive human future

Leuren Moret (5/27/08).  Geo-scientist, researcher, expert on depleted uranium. and click on Leuren Moret (5/27/08)

When asked about the Newmont Uranium project proposed for Park County Colorado, Leuren stated that one cannot understand what is happening locally without first understanding the big picture.   Regarding the global uranium business, the international bankers located within the ancient Roman “City of London” have decided that: if you control the food, you control the nation, if you control the energy, you control a region, and if you control money, you control the whole world.  The City of London international bankers are the descendants of the Merchants of Venice, who are descended from those who controlled the Roman, Egyptian, and Mesopotamian empires.  They invented the concept of a corporation to relieve themselves of any liability for their actions.  

Maurice Strong, more than anyone else in the world, has written the rules for the global takeover of land, resources and people by these international bankers.  Strong began working for the Rockefellers when he was 18 and he continues to work for and with the Wall Street-City of London bankers today.  Maurice Strong is also a major factor in the coming (intended) merger of Canada, the United States and Mexico into a North American Union.  All this is about a gigantic land grab of the resources of the world.  And under the terms of globalization set up by Strong and others, private corporations like Newmont Mining Company) have no responsibility or liability.  Since 1995, Jacob Rothschild and the Rothschild Family won 80% of the world’s uranium.  Individual property owners now typically own only the top 6” of soil on their land.  Everything else, presumably down to the center of the earth, is owned by the City of London.  Today, this global land grab is comprised of countless local land grabs.  

Governments such as the US government are creating Wildlands and National Heritage Sites.   And this is proceeding under the justification of environmental protection.  Meanwhile, people are being squeezed off their land.  The environmental movement and NGOs (non-governmental organizations) have tricked us into relinquishing our private property rights guaranteed to us by the US Constitution.  Agenda 21- the UN Agenda for the Twenty-First Century, also created by Maurice Strong- is proceeding at triple speed under Bush II.  

The tripling of gas prices since Bush II became president is restricting our movement and causing food prices to go up.  During the last 10-20 years, the world’s oil companies consolidated into three- BP (British Petroleum), Shell, and Exxon-Mobile.  (These three companies are all primarily controlled by members of the Committee of 300, according to intelligence analyst Dr. John Coleman.   The Committee of 300 includes representatives of the the Rothschild and Rockefeller families, Queen Elizabeth II and many other European royalty, Henry Kissinger, George Bush Sr., and, of course, Maurice Strong; Coleman, 1997-2006).

Princess Diana’s mother is a Rothschild (Jewish), so technically, Prince William is also a Jewish Rothschild by blood.  And he, of course, is positioned to be King of England- and hence, many believe the ultimate controller of the entire global secret government/Rothschild Octopus that includes the Committee of 300, M16, the Round Table, the  Royal Institute for International Affairs, the CIA, Mossad, the state of Israel, and their myriad corporations,  think tanks, intelligence agencies, false business fronts, etc.  

She quotes Winston Churchill’s statement (2/08/1920, Illustrated Sunday Herald):

This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.  From the days of Sparticus (Adam) Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trosky (real name- Bronstein, Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany) and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible inequality, has been steadily growing.   It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so  ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution.  It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.  There is no need to exaggerate the  part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews.  Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders.

Moret then notes that what is occurring is “spiritual warfare” and the Khazar Jews are not really Jews.  They have adopted the Jewish religion as a fig-leaf.  An example of the disconnect within the world Jewish community is that whereas Israeli Jews mostly support Bush II, American Jews do not.  Meanwhile, the international bankers do view humans as “human cattle” (goyim is the Jewish term)  She states that 300,000 American children are picked up by police each year and their organs are harvested (however, she did not mention the source of this statistic).  Dynecorp forces young women into sex trafficking.  The ruling elite use organized crime and the military to maintain their power.  Today, as a result of their activities, organized  crime is seamless around the world.  The European Union is a Jacob Rothschild creation.  

Today, the world’s ruling elite view the United States as a giant turkey to be carved up and divided amongst themselves.  The Newmont Uranium gold mine takes $1 billion a year in gold from Nevada.  Canadian companies are raping America and American companies are raping Canada.  

President Nixon, using Executive Orders, carved America into 10 regions.  The U.N. is now trying to control the water, because no living thing can survive without water.  

Maurice and his wife, Hannah Strong (directors of the Manitou Foundation) have leased land to numerous spiritual groups in the Crestone area of south-central Colorado, adjacent to the San Luis Basin.  In effect, Moret suggests they are “colonizing” the Crestone area for its resources.   Because native Americans have a more coherent culture than the dominant American cultures, they are most aware of these kinds of land grab activities.  However, we have indy media and the internet.  

WWII nuclear targets, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, were chosen by Skull and Bonesman, Stimson.  Stimson and other Bonesmen set up the University of California to be the insititution that would create our weapons of mass destruction.  The U.S. government has used 800 tons of depleted uranium in their wars against Iraq and Afghanistan.  In July, the Air Force carried out 835 strikes using DU tipped missiles.  In July, 2007, the uranium content in Los Angeles drinking water doubled- as a result of our use of these weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan.  

On 9/11, the World Trade Center Buildings were demolished using exotic, directed energy or beam weapons.  The buildings went up in nannoparticles- that you can’t even see.  The particle size evidence is critical and reveals that DEW (directed energy weapons) were used.  Re: the 9/11 Truth Movement, Moret re-interated that some of the leading figures, including the “Three Popes” of the movement, Dr. Steven Jones, Webster Tarpley and Dr. David Ray Griffin, are all counter-intelligence agents.  Dr. Steven Jones, the ex-physics professor from the University of Utah who was co-founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth is a “Department of Energy liar” who is trying to promote the false conclusion that WTC 1 and 2 came down based on chemical/thermite explosions.  A Mormon, Jones also worled at Los Alamos labs and sabatoged the two University of Utah scientists who discovered cold fusion back in the 1980’s.  (Mormons are heavily represented in the nuclear industry, according to Moret).  Dr. David Ray Griffin, a retired professor of theology from Southern California, is affiliated with the Club of Rome (a top Committee of 300 think tank, according to Dr. John Coleman).  His “handler” is Richard Falk, of the CFR (Committee on Foreign Relations, another Committee of 300-controlled think tank).  Tarpley is an alarmist who continually predicts the next 9/11 attack.

Moret attended a July, 2005 9/11 Truth conference in Washington, DC.  This conference was internally sabatoged by many co-intel pro workers.  What we need is an international citizens effort to uncover the truth of 9/11.  Richard Falk may soon be taking the lead in an international UN investigation.  This will be another bogus investigation.  

Dr. Thomas Cahill, University of California, Davis, monitored air quality at Ground Zero for 5 months after 9/11. His Delta Group published a 4” thick report that showed that tritium and deteurium were used.  This is evidence, perhaps, that 4th generation nuclear weapons, DEW (beam) weapons, and/or DU were used.  As Dr. Judy Wood showed her photographic evidence in her talk at the the Madison, WI 9/11 Conference put on by Dr. James Fetzer, Dr. Doug Rokke turned to Leuren Moret and whispered- “it had to be mini-nukes and directed energy weapons.”

In fact 9/11 was carried out by M16, the CIA, and Mossad (intelligence agencies of England, the US and Israel) (on behalf of the Committee of 300- ETK).   9/11 gave the ruling elite justification to repeal our Bill of Rights in the Patriot Act and Domestic Military Authorization Act (that eradicated posse comitatus), their wars in the Middle East.  What do Kazakhstan and Afghanistan have in common?  Lot of uranium.  The ruling elite now have their eye on Siberia for its abundant oil and natural gas.  

Moret recommends that everyone read the following articles:

Global Landgrab Coming Soon to Your Neighborhood, by Judith Moriarty (2/27/05)  (This covers Agenda 21, Sustainable Communities, Regional Governance, Public Private Partnerships, Water, Non-Governmental Organizations, the Re-Wilding of America.)

Maurice Strong: The New Guy in Your Future, by Henry Lamb January, 2007

The Rothschild Octopus, by Vlada Sindjelic

George Soros: An Evil Rothschild Agent, Brother Nathanael Kapner

Carlyle Empire, by Eric Lesser

Famine Killed 7 Million People in the USA, by Dmitry Lyskov (Pravda)  This shows that simultaneous famines, wereengineered by the global ruling elite in both the Soviet Union and the United States.

Dr. Ed Ward (9/11/07).   Medical doctor in New Orleans, LA, and independent 9/11 researcher. and click on Dr. Ed Ward (9/11/07)

The US has had demolition micro-nukes since 1958 and 1967.  Out of the approximately 3 billion pounds of the World Trade Center Buildings 1 and 2, about 2 billion turned to dust and spread around Manhattan.  It was anaerobic combustion.   There are 3 huge craters at the WTC, 250’ wide by 35’ deep at WTC 1.  There was a pyroclastic flow at WTC 6 and the crater there was 45 to 60’ deep and 120’ wide.  Trace tritium levels were documented by the Dept. of Energy 55 times higher than normal background.  Geiger counters were not allowed for the first 72 hours.  Dr. Ward believes the Twin Towers came down as a result of thermite C-4 military explosives and nukes.  There were 10 war games going on on the morning of 9/11 that involved planes flying into the WTC.   He recommends the following websites: go to archives and links.  We need to wake people up.  There is Neur0-Lingual Programming- i.e., brainwashing- going on, using the Delta Technique- it’s a psychological ploy.  9/11 was also a Psy-Op.   There was another FEMA coup in New Orleans.   FEMA cut the phone lines.  Dr. Ward was in New Orleans during the Hurricane Katrina disaster and relates his amazing story.   He regards  this event as a government exercise in moving large populations.  He believes the government is responsible for orchestrating the Hurricane Katrina disaster as well as 9/11. 

Sophia of 9/11,”  film maker of  9/11 Mysteries: Part I: Demolitions, internet vendor and information outlet 

1/29/08 Interview: click on Sophia Smallstorm 1/29/08

    Since making her movie, “9/11 Mysteries: Demolitions”, Sophia Smallstorm has set up a website business that sells books, movies about 9/11 and related topics.  She has had the courage to go down “the rabbit hole,” and has put up links on her website that deal with topics such as Aerosol Spraying (Chem Trails), HAARP,  the fraud of the Federal Reserve system (and how we can beat it by legally not paying taxes), etc.  She states that the pursuit of truth should be an expanding reality if we are not mind-controlled.  She notes that of the 40,000 people that came to help after the 9/11 attacks, 20,000 are already diagnosed with acute respiratory problems and many have died.    Why are humans being sprayed with polymer filaments from the sky (chem. Trails- .   She suggests these are airborne infertility (population reduction) measures.   She refers to Nick Begich’s Holes in Heaven about the Air Force’s HAARP program (High Active Frequency Auroral Research Program).  This can result in mind control and neurological  damage.  Our free will is under attack- perhaps by an alien intelligence? 

Richard Gage, founder of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth (  also featured in the movie “9/11: Blueprint for Truth: The Architecture of Destruction”

As of now, 250 architects and engineers have signed a petition to re-investigate what happened to the buildings on 9/11. 

WTC 1, 2, and 7 were the three worst structural failures in modern history.  (In this statement, Gage fails to acknowledge that WTC buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6 were also completely destroyed on 9/11- ETK note).  There have been 100’s of fires in steel high rise buildings in the past and since 9/11… but no buildings have ever collapsed due to fire.  In some of these other fires, 10 to 20 floors burned over 10 to 20 hours (actually up to 4 days - ETK).  In addition, the classic crimp we saw in video  footage at the top of WTC 7 just before its collapse indicates it came down by controlled demolition.    

WTC 7 had 40,000 tons of structural steel and 27 interior core columns.  The sulfidization process had to cut all frames to collapse the building into four stories of debris.  There were tons of molten metal, flowing like lava, based on infra-red photos.  (My (ETK’s) note: Relatively hot objects appear white on infra-red photos.  Objects do not have to be molten to appear white.  By contrast, molten steel appears red/orange/yellow on regular photos. So you don’t need infra-red photos to identify molten metal. You only need regular photos.  Here, Gage seems to be transmitting erroneous information or disinformation).   He notes that 21 days after 9/11, molten iron (not steel) was still running.   He notes that ends of the beams were melted. 

There were 800 truck loads a day after 9/11 that removed the evidence.  (Here, Gage fails to acknowledge that the trucks were actually importing soil/dirt to cover the site, as per - ETK).  In the destruction of Building 7, the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) housed in WTC 7 (the Salomon Brothers Building) lost 1000’s of files pertaining to 100’s of legal cases, including ENRON and Worldcom.  The CIA, DOD, and many other government agencies were also housed in WTC 7.  In the PBS documentary “America Rebuilds,” aired in 2002, owner of the WTC complex, (Zionisst) Larry Silverstein admits that he gave the order to “pull” the building.   

WTC 1 and 2: In the mushroom explosion, beams were hurled 500’ (actually 600’) laterally. Pyroclastic clouds were produced.  In 2005, people found 700 bone fragments ½ inch long or less on the high rise across the street.  In all, remains of 1500 people were not found…. They were vaporized.  Likewise, office furniture and file cabinets  were vaporized and turned to fine dust.  There were no macro-scopic chunks of concrete.  He says only a couple stories of rubble were found at the bottom (ETK note- Dr. Judy Wood’s photos show there was essentially no rubble pile immediately after WTC 1 and 2 disappeared.  Only days later, after trucks had imported dirt and other material to the site did the rubble pile grow.)     

Pyroclastic clouds carried tiny droplets of molten iron (where’s the proof?) and molten iron is a by-product of the thermate reaction.  It’s all in the dust as small spheres of iron.  (Presumably he is referring to the work of Dr. Steve Jones who analyzed one sample of dust).  There were unexploded chips of thermate 1/16th of an inch long. 

2844 people were killed in the “collapse,” which occurred at incredible speed, that is, 10 seconds or the rate of 11 floors per second.  Put another way, each floor failed and “fell” (actually exploded and disappeared) in 1/11th of a second.  Squibbs are seen to come out of windows 20, 40, 60 floors below the “demolition wave.” 

In fact, WTC 1 and 2 had won an awarded for structural engineering in 1971 from the American Society of Civil Engineers.  They were over-designed by a factor of 20- they were incredibly sturdy.  They had 30 to 36” steel girders, each floor is an acre in size, for a total of 160 acres for each building.  118 first responders testify to hearing explosions in the buildings.  The fires in the building were oxygen starved fires.   

My ETK’s comment:  Richard Gage is a Republican who first became interested in the issue of 911 in 2006 or 2007.  As such he is a late-comer to the community of 9/11 investigators.  His interpretation of what actually happened at Ground Zero follows that of Dr. Steve Jones, one of the two co-founders of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, who is also a Republican and a late-comer to the 9/11 investigation (2005).  It should be noted that this interpretation differs significantly from that of Dr. Judy Wood.  Their opinions differ on whether there was actually molten metal at the site (Jones and Gage) or whether the buildings were mainly destroyed by exotic, directed energy weapons (Wood), that caused molecular dissociation of steel and concrete but did not produce much heat at all.  Personally, I am convinced that Wood is correct and that Jones and Gage are wrong.  If so, it remains to be determined whether Gage and Jones are guilty of intentionally spreading disinformation or not.