G2c2

News for general G2c2 persons

Ted Kandell, administrator of our sister G2c project, has provided these items he feels were the important findings of the last year:

1. G2c has been discovered in the Melik-Haikazian family of Qashatagh, Nagorno-Karabakh. 
They are a Medieval Armenian family:
http://www.artsakhworld.com/Eng/provinces/kashatagh/kash.html
They seem to belong to a cluster with a single member of the Tabassaran ethnic group from Daghestan. 
This branch of G2c is an extremely early one, with the common ancestor with the rest of G2c living approximately 5700 years ago.The Cigliano family of Naples also seem to belong to this early G2c clade, but rather distantly.

2. A group of Pathans who have an ancestor from Afghanistan who settled in from Malihabad India were tested, and approximately 60% turned out to be G2c1-M283. What is important about this is that they have a known ancestor named Baland Khan, who in turn has a known tribal genealogy:
http://malihabad.blogspot.com/2008/04/khans-of-malihabad.html
These clans seem to descend from a certain Ibrahim Ghorey (Ghori), apparently of Ghor, Afghanistan:
http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000008580158782

Other recent studies have shown that the percentage of G2c1-M283 in Afghanistan and the Northwest Frontier Provinces of Pakistan is about 5%-10%, depending on the region. It seems likely that this is restricted to certain tribes around the Khyber Pass region, and their descendants who migrated elsewhere, such as India.
Research needs to be done on which particular clans are likely to be G2c1:
http://books.google.com/ebooks?id=zGMoAAAAYAAJ

Full sequencing of the Human Genome Diversity Project (HGDP) academic samples may also involve sequencing the genomes of the two G2c1's in the HGDP:
HGDP00213 Pathan
HGDP00351 Burusho

Hopefully this is something we can expect to see in the not too distant future.

I have divided your subgroup into two categories:
(1) those with the DYS425=null mutation
(2) those only predicted to have the DYS425 mutation based on the similarity of your marker values to those who are confirmed

Normally we would ask those not tested for such a mutation like DYS425 that defines your subgroups to consider having this done, but your other marker values are so characteristic in your subgroup that this does not seem to serve any purpose.

There is a pressing need for those of you who have a value of 24 at the DYS390 marker to also have tests for the DYS594 marker.  There is a distinct G2c2 subgroup which shares odd values for these markers.  Now, those with DYS390=24 and also have upgraded to 67 markers are already taken care of on this, but there are six men who have no value for this.  And it only costs  $7.20 to test this one marker -- what a bargain!

The men who need to test for this are Mr. Herzbrun, Sandhaus, Newman, Wolfson, Bronsky and Jacobs.

As mentioned in the general news section, if you are willing to better define your grouping, I will be glad to give individual recommendations and help. rayhbanks@cox.net.

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