An interview by student Romina Shirazi
Dr. Pedro Cabrales, is a Professor of Bioengineering at UC San Diego. He is the Principal Investigator of the Functional Cardiovascular Engineering Laboratory, which focuses on applying multiscale approaches to understand fundamental cellular processes related to homeostasis and hemodynamics. In this interview, we learn more about how Dr. Cabrales’ experiences as both a scientist and an educator shape his perspectives.
What is your educational background, and how did you join the Bioengineering Department?
I graduated from the University of Los Andes in Bogota, Colombia; I was interested in Mechanical and Electrical Engineering. I chose the Bioengineering path for my graduate studies because the projects I was working on during my Master's and Ph.D. programs had a heavy biological component. These projects drove my curiosity to learn more about biology and physiology.
What were the projects that you worked on as a student and inspired you to learn more about Biology?
My first project was on computational modeling of abdominal aortic aneurysms (AAA) of patients scheduled to receive AAA repair surgery. We made morphological reconstructions from the patient's images and computational models of the blood flow inside the AAA. We calculated the stress and strain distributions on their aneurysms with the fluid models. And after the surgery, we measured the mechanical properties of the AAA removed during the repair surgery to obtain properties such as Young's modulus and the rupture stress. These parameters were later compared with the stress and strain distribution to define the risk of rupture for that specific patient, even though they had already received the repair surgery. Since AAA repair surgeries are very risky, ideally, we wanted to know the risk of rupture. During my master's, we implemented this test in nine patients, partly because computers back then were extremely slow relative to now. I can only imagine what can be done with the computers available nowadays. Before this, during my undergrad, I worked on a mass transport model to optimize the dialysis time of patients. Hemodialysis is a treatment that removes metabolic waste and water from the blood in people with acute or chronic kidney failure. At that time, the hemodialysis time was defined based on the difference between the patient’s weight at the beginning of the session and the predefined dry weight for the same patient. Basically, the hemodialysis time was calculated as the time required to remove the excess water without considering the other metabolites that needed to be removed during the procedure. We developed a model based on bilirubin clearance to define the optimal time for dialysis. Bilirubin is a yellowish metabolite, which in part gives the yellow color to urine and is produced from the degradation of hemoglobin. The hemoglobin from red blood cells is constantly destroyed as red cells complete their life cycle, and a set amount of bilirubin is produced daily. Bilirubin is usually excreted by the kidneys. The project ended by defining a color metric to measure bilirubin in the dialysis fluid, and when bilirubin was mainly removed from the dialysis fluid, the hemodialysis could stop then. The proposed solution allowed for optimization of hemodialysis session time.
When I started my Ph.D. project, Colombia was almost in a civil war. The government created a program that supported making artificial blood as many people were dying due to bleeding and lack of blood availability. And keep in mind that Colombia is mostly a jungle, and there is no easy access to electricity or refrigeration. So, we had to come up with something that could be used in the hot and unfriendly battlefield environment. Blood was not practical there; thus, we had the idea of making a fully synthetic oxygen carrier, which was a very ambitious idea at the time. We successfully created a clean facility and made an emulsion that was able to dissolve and transport 20 times more oxygen than water. We were able to replace blood with this emulsion in rats and confirmed that it transported oxygen to tissues and supported life. However, one of the limitations of the oxygen-carrying emulsion was that it only dissolved oxygen proportional to the oxygen concentration in the lungs.
Consequently, the oxygen-carrying capacity was limited by the partial pressure of oxygen. This made things challenging since our studies were completed in Bogota at nearly 3000 meters over sea level. At the same time, a San Diego company
called Alliance Pharmaceuticals was developing a very similar perfluorocarbon-based oxygen-carrying emulsion. They appeared to have more promising results when evaluating the perfluorocarbon emulsion at sea level. After reviewing their results, we figured that due to the altitude and the reduced oxygen partial pressure in Bogota, we needed to increase the percentage of oxygen to compensate for the lower partial pressure. I came to UC San Diego from Colombia to continue working on this perfluorocarbon-based oxygen-carrying emulsion. Specifically, I wanted to study what happens in microcirculation when perfluorocarbon emulsions are in circulation and how they transport and deliver oxygen to tissues.
Could you share some of the research projects that your lab is working on?
The lab has different research areas, but most of them are related to the cardiovascular system and the microcirculation. We have a lot of emphasis on blood, the effect of blood transfusions, and trying to develop alternatives to blood.
We want to make alternatives to blood capable of supplying many of the different functions that blood has. Blood transports oxygen and nutrients, and supports hemostasis (the coagulation system) and the immune system. Another research that we are currently working on is understanding the implication of a blood transfusion. Blood is living tissue with an expiration date, since blood cells do not circulate for more than 120 days; thus, a blood transfusion is like an organ transplant. Blood is an organ that flows through and interacts with every tissue and organ of our body. Understanding the effects of a natural blood transfusion has helped us develop better approaches to creating artificial blood and improving its compatibility.
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Cabrales Lab ResearchWere there any life events that you were inspired by to start a research project?
Life has always presented me with different situations that have inspired me to develop new research areas in the lab. For instance, I started working on the cerebral hemodynamic implications of traumatic brain injury (TBI) because my wife suffered a TBI by hitting her head on the kitchen door, which increased her seizure frequency. She ended up receiving brain surgery two years ago to remove the area of her brain, triggering the seizures. It was incredible to see how the brain's cardiovascular and nervous systems are interconnected. Nowadays, she is doing much better. We have developed several projects in the lab to develop therapies to improve the outcome from TBI, currently supported by the Department of Defense.
What are your long term goals as a professor at UCSD?
I always try to become a better teacher and inspire my students to think about the class topics. It’s not about how much you teach, it’s about how much of the material stays with the students after the class is over. I find motivation and passion as crucial factors in supporting the learning experience; they keep us going without giving up and promote curiosity to keep asking questions.
What are some of the important skills that you think bioengineers should possess?
Common sense and logic, and applying your knowledge to your everyday life and problems. Being able to find a way to apply what is taught in the classroom. Sometimes as professors, we don’t make a big effort to explain how the teaching material can be applied to practical problems. However, the learning process is significantly more fun and rewarding when you can make valuable practical connections between the theory and the practice.
As an educator, what do you think is the purpose of higher education? Is it merely an economic signal for employers to sort out highly-skilled laborers?
The purpose of higher education is to further expand people's skills. The joy and the satisfaction that people get after learning and applying new skills to topics they are interested in is the best way to promote learning.
It seems that students sometimes have difficulties transitioning from academia to industry.
Are there any plans to bridge this gap within the department, perhaps through more interactions with biomedical industries?
Bioengineering is being taught more theoretical than practical now, and it is challenging for the students to know how to apply the equations, concepts, and knowledge to specific situations. But the department is working on having more interaction with the local companies and industries to support student internships and facilitate the transition to industry and support the needs of the local biotech community. The priorities of academia are very different from the priorities of the industries. These internships are an excellent opportunity for students to learn the language that the companies want to hear and to apply what they have learned.
What do you think is the next “big thing” in the field of bioengineering?
Bioengineering is being recognized more and more every day, but one of the big things growing very quickly is personalized medicine. In the past, medical doctors always followed the same recipe/procedure for all the patients, but this method does not necessarily work for everyone. Finding the root cause of a specific problem for a particular individual could take many years, but with the help of more detailed and personalized tests, the doctor now can get to a diagnosis much faster and treat the cause of the problem and not only the symptoms.
One of the biggest challenges for bioengineering now is to help reduce the cost and increase the accessibility of personalized medicine. Thus, everyone will get access to rapid and complete diagnostic tests, not only the people who have more resources.