posted May 1, 2011 8:31 AM by Roger Zuidema
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Shane Hipps Find Shane at http://www.shanehipps.com/index.htm1 John 1 (New International Version, ©2011)
1 John 1The Incarnation of the Word of Life 1 That which was from the
beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which
we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning
the Word of life. 2 The
life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you
the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we
have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And
our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our [a] joy complete. The bible is a library of all different types of books bound as one. Mark, Luke, Matt and then there is John. Written late than the other books. Eternal Life spoken about a lot. No parables. Organized around debates or discussions. Johns writing John 1,2,3 and Revelations Introductory Lines 1 That which was from the
beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which
we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning
the Word of life What I'm about to talk to you about isn't something that we have read about. Direct experiences. We live it. The Word of Life V. 1 Notice word is capitalized. We want you to know we have experienced the good life. V. 2 This life was revealed to us. Eternal Life Old concept: After we die! Not consistent with what John is writing. Two different kinds of life. 1) Psyche : When you are born you enter the level of Psyche life and loose it when you die. 2) "Zoe Life" : Jesus wants use to gain the Zoe. Eternal Zoe. Eternal does not mean something that last forever. This is outside of time. Something that exists in another realm or deminsion. it is an experience, not a concept. Does not have a beginning or end, that means it's happening no An experience that happens now that Jesus came to reveal. No relationship to this life today. The Zoe life needs to be right if the Psyche is to be it's best. Guarantee In Psyche Life it is going to be hard, changing, unpredictable, Like waves of the ocean on top. Loose your job, get sick, The Zoe life is like under the water. Make our joy complete!!!! The Question is "Have you every tasted the Zoe Life. |
posted Nov 28, 2010 2:56 PM by Roger Zuidema
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Tis the season!
Let's interact with the season and the realities that are in front of us!
Theme Difficult Realities:
Prayers and response: You became human and born in a troubled land- You came to judge the poor with justice- You came to bring us hope and courage- You came to speak the human word of God's care and tenderness- You came to restore to us new life with you and with one another-
Brad.....
Longing and Ache... What is Advent? A candle lighting? A Scripture reading? Is Advent is something to be tolerated? Is it a count down?
Observation on Advent- Adventus - Coming / Arrival of something long awaited. The longing for God to show up!
Come face to face with longing..... to understand what..... to name them.
When you are in touch with your longings you are in touch with your deepest self. Where do you need God to show up?
Long History of Kings using Advent to announce there kingship and how good things will be. A new god has arrived! They were the one to come. The one we waited for is here.
This is one of the greatest human feeling. Longing for a Savior to come. To make things better.
The Messiah (Jesus) comes. Mark 1:14 "The time has come. The Kingdom of God has come near." "So repent and believe the good news." No destroying, or killing. No hit list. So different that what was expected.
The people that were longing the most for it, missed it. (Jews of the time.)
God shows up in ways that we don't expect.
Ed Dobson: Stories.....The healing did come, but it wasn't in the mode that he expected.
We weeped, we ached, we mourned... What did you learn? Sense God's presence....but we hadn't sensed his comfort. God comfort was with others. You have been the face of God.
You need to hold you longing loosely. You have to realize that God will show up in unexpected ways.
Jesus....in his life seems to leave things un-done. I wonder if he not so much worried about getting things done, but joining people in there longing.
Joining us in your longing. Longing is a disposition of the heart. When you lose the reality of you longings...watch-out. God want's to join you in you longings.
Let your longings remind you of your need for God.
My insights:
There is a beginning, a middle and an end. What are you going to do to make the middle worth it? We long for love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, and gentleness. Create a world of hope in us. In touch with your ache, so we can become a good steward of it.
Light the hope candle.
What is your candle about? Mine is the celebration of the Middle. That God has used us in ways that we can't even imagine. We leave the legacy of life. What has happened in the middle in the key! Hope that the last years of life can be a reflection on the joy of what is in the middle!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lord let us celebrate the start, give us peace in the end, and a longing for good in the middle.
Share, care and play fair!
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posted Jul 18, 2010 8:30 AM by Roger Zuidema
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Everybody is made by God for a purpose. So you could experience joy!
But one little thing that we must talk about!
Response by people in the Bible:
Matt 4:19-20 - Jump at once.
Acts 9 - At once he began to preach.
Exodus 4 - Give an excuse. Be resistance.
Jonah 1 - Ran away from the Lord
Jeremiah 1 - Give an excuse.
1) Yes please, I will go. 2) We are not so sure we want to do this.
Calling produces joy, but in some cases it produces resistance.
Let's explore the resistance.
Uncover my deepest desire in the world. Something happened. I learned that my deepest desire was the one thing that I didn't want. Makes resistance easy.
Paired pleasure and eating so we can survive.
Craving for nutrients not flavors. Respond to the deep craving for nutrients, the body will respond.
Like if you respond to the calling you will have joy.
Another reason for resistance: Calling introduces us to limits and limits introduce us to pain and grief. But we don't want to have limits.
As bad as the limits where, joy was produced because your deepest desire is being fulfilled.
Grieving moves us to resignation to acceptance. (Both non-resistance, but acceptance is born of peace. Acceptance is born of when you move on.
When you move on there is the joy!
The bridge between resignation and acceptance is a bridge called grief.
If you are looking to sort out your calling. You may be interested in some weekend retreats. See the brochures at www.marshill.org.
If you have found your song, please enjoy the purpose.
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posted Jun 13, 2010 8:31 AM by Roger Zuidema
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The Talk: Week #1: The big Jesus. Differences in perspectives, but the same person. Today: How can we be this Church that handles the differences? What is said at Mars Hill by the leaders and preachers, can there be differences, with out controversies? Paul Letters: 1 Corinthians 3 On Divisions in the Church 1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly—mere infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3You
are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among
you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? 4For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere men? 5What, after all, is
Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to
believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. 6I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. Paul for whatever reasons, the Church is identified with the leader and not Jesus. Tendency to base trust on what can be seen, not on what is invisible. Rob and Shane is not the master they are servant interpretor of Jesus. They are people wrestling with God themselves. They don't take yourselves to serious. They are only there to plant, not there to make grow. With a big Church. You are open to all kids of disagreement. Allowing space for that to happen, is ok. Mutually friend named Zac. Brought Shane and Rob together. Instant connection, for this teacher thing. When you talk your throw yourself into it, but you also let go of it. A paradox. Control of what you say, but lack of control of how other engage to it. Once person plants, the other person water, but God makes it Grow. Only one master! Matthew 17,18,21 Lot's of time in the bible. Jesus asked What do you think. Many other passage the as the questions. How do you read it? Jesus may be comfortable with people seeing things different? Is it ok? Differences. The body of Christ. From the trivial to profound differences. We must be centered at the table. We are wearing lenses and hearing things at different angles. CRC and RCA. How you agree everything that is said from the stage, there? Wait that is why we are hear, to ask questions. To talk about it. We are just interpretors of the masters. Plenty of room for that. Figuring out what it means to be true to Jesus in the World we live in? Firm Center......it frees you to be able to handle all sorts of diversity. But what about true disagreements. Right and Wrong stuff? Shane: 1) Fortify and confront. Seek and destroy. 2) Cut ties, leave. Because I don't want to be associated with. Sometimes the disagreement is not what it appears to be. The bud before the blossom. Extract it so soon, you will miss the beauty of what God is planning. The challenge is to determine what is a weed and what is a wild flower. |
posted May 30, 2010 8:15 AM by Roger Zuidema
Matthew 26
Let's talk about Jesus.
Shane: Grandfather missionary to China for 50 years. Father was also a missionary.
Raised in a Christian home but he never went to Church. 5th grade Church camp "Camp Piro" Light you on fire for God.
I am a sinner , Jesus loves me, Jesus died for my sins, if you believe, you will live forever. Simple formula, but yet powerful. Commit your life to Christ.
If you do it based on emotion it might not last. So he didn't.
Went home read the Gospels. Prayed the prayer. So incredibly real. Since then it hasn't waivered.
Learned: The thing the appealed to him the most wasn't the death part, but the life part.
In school Learned that I wasn't so smart. Learned that I was dumb. Loved Jesus for going out of his way to find people that wasn't very smart. I could be a part of this group.
He learned that he was dyslexics. He also learned that he wasn't as physical has everybody, aware that I was smaller and weaker. This Jesus went out of the way to befriend the smaller and weaker.
Contemplation. journaling , reading, prayer. A big part of his life.
People loved me and loved Jesus and they helped me do the same.
Jesus that I love and know keeps getting bigger.
Rob
Parents were Christians. In elementary decided to accept Jesus in his life.
High school was an interesting time. Always somebody better. Better athletes, better grades. Where do you measure up. For Jesus his story was about an upside down reality. Jesus didn't let me down. He would be ok.
College
Seminary in California: 120 denominational. He meet the vast spectrum of people from all over the world. Jesus that could handle the vast spetrum of othrodox Christian.
He meet the Jewish Jesus. The Catholic Jeses. A Jesus that brought it all together. He met the mysitic Jesus. Jesus that was the rock and the wind.
Let down by institutions. Have people set out to ruin by life. Let down by poeple. But, Jesus has never let me down.
We share belief in a Jesus bigger that you can imagine and more faithful than we can think of.
It draws you to Jesus - Communion.
It's about the death, but also about the life. Let's believe in a God that continues to lead us to his end.
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posted Apr 11, 2010 8:28 AM by Roger Zuidema
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http://www.marshill.org/Local Hudsonville elementary raised $33,000 and called us to action. WE ARE THE AGENT OF CHANGE! ONLY HAPPENS WHEN EVERYBODY PLAYS A PART. THE STORY KEEPS GOING! John 4 Jesus in on a journey. Samarians hated they Jews. They were half breeds and thus outcast with the Jews. Came across a well. (Jesus was concerned with the interior of things, while Jesuse is concerned about the exterior of thing.) 7When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, "Will you give me a drink?" 8(His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.) 9The
Samaritan woman said to him, "You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman.
How can you ask me for a drink?" (For Jews do not associate with
Samaritans.[a]) 10Jesus
answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you
for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you
living water." 11"Sir," the woman said, "you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 13Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14but
whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the
water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to
eternal life." Eternal Life: Welling up. Presence tense on going Event. Available here in a ongoing way! The experience of eternal life begins when you are born and not when you die. Tense: Past, Present , Future Aspect: One time event, On Going. How do I get this? Go call your husband and come back. First step towards Eternal life is to feel your thirst? Can you feel the deep longing for the peace. Do we know how thirsty we are? Do we know what we are doing to mask that thirst. Deep PEACE, JOY and LOVE! |
posted Mar 28, 2010 8:32 AM by Roger Zuidema
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Jonah 4:5 4 But the LORD replied, "Have you any right to be angry?" 5
Jonah went out and sat down at a place east of the city. There he made
himself a shelter, sat in its shade and waited to see what would happen
to the city. 6 Then the
LORD God provided a vine and made it grow up over Jonah to give shade
for his head to ease his discomfort, and Jonah was very happy about the
vine. 7 But at dawn the next day God provided a worm, which chewed the vine so that it withered. 8
When the sun rose, God provided a scorching east wind, and the sun
blazed on Jonah's head so that he grew faint. He wanted to die, and
said, "It would be better for me to die than to live." 9 But God said to Jonah, "Do you have a right to be angry about the vine?" "I do," he said. "I am angry enough to die." 10
But the LORD said, "You have been concerned about this vine, though you
did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died
overnight. 11 But
Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot
tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should
I not be concerned about that great city?" Is the book of Jonah about this guy being swallowed by a fish? It has a odd ending. The book ends with a story about the plant. Jonah liked the plant. "he liked the gord from the Lord'. vs. 5 What is going to happen to the city? Why does he have an interest in this City. The kings of this city have plundered the Isreal kingdom many time. The original "axes of evil". I'm waiting for justice on this nation. The Assyrians. The anology. Shouldn't I be more concerned for people, more than you have over a plant. You love your plant now you know I have feel about the city of Ninneveh I'm not like that" - God What Kind of Book is this? 1) vague story about a whale and man who was swallowed. (Not Really.) 2) Jonah is a prophetic book. The prophets came to very religouos people and announced truth. A sharp pointed crtique that was meant to make a point. A question to Israel at this time. Are you going to forgive your enemy or are you going to show Mercy? Your enemies. You wait for the destruction. The point "God wants to renew all things.....the redemption of all things." Are you gong to watch for your eniemy to burn and be destroyed or are you going to be like Jesus and Love you enemy. Mercy Trumps Judgment. This is about your heart!! How far does mercy go.....It goes really deep... God grace and mercy trumps all the things within us that say they deserve to burn. Matthew 12:39 39He answered, "A
wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none
will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For
as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish,
so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of
the earth. 41The men of
Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn
it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now one [a] greater than Jonah is here. 42The
Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with this generation and
condemn it; for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to
Solomon's wisdom, and now one greater than Solomon is here. What needs to be swallowed so that we can live. Death give way to life...... Buried in the earth....rises again. Swallowed by a what ....spit out. Richard Rohr - Things Hidden It is we who must die not other. What needs to die so we can live? Jonah Themes flee from God - God will be there also. Meet us in the places that God not supose to be. dualities that don't work anymore - These people are like this, God help me think about this world as you view it. the categories aren't working anymore. storms that rescue us - Perhaps the storms are meant to rescue us. Die to all my expectations and go on. forgiving - finding God's heart - Have you been say focused on your own comfort and pleasure, 100,000 of thousands of people need water, and help. Have you lost a sense of mission and calling...... |
posted Mar 21, 2010 8:16 AM by Roger Zuidema
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Jonah 3:10 10And God saw their
works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the
evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Jonah 4 Jonah's Anger at the Lord 's Compassion 1 But Jonah was greatly displeased and became angry. 2
He prayed to the LORD, "O LORD, is this not what I said when I was
still at home? That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish. I knew
that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and
abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity. 3 Now, O LORD, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live." 4 But the LORD replied, "Have you any right to be angry?" 5
Jonah went out and sat down at a place east of the city. There he made
himself a shelter, sat in its shade and waited to see what would happen
to the city. 6 Then the
LORD God provided a vine and made it grow up over Jonah to give shade
for his head to ease his discomfort, and Jonah was very happy about the
vine. 7 But at dawn the next day God provided a worm, which chewed the vine so that it withered. 8
When the sun rose, God provided a scorching east wind, and the sun
blazed on Jonah's head so that he grew faint. He wanted to die, and
said, "It would be better for me to die than to live." 9 But God said to Jonah, "Do you have a right to be angry about the vine?" "I do," he said. "I am angry enough to die." 10
But the LORD said, "You have been concerned about this vine, though you
did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died
overnight. 11 But
Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot
tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should
I not be concerned about that great city?" Why did Jonah Flee? He is mad? "I knew
that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and
abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity. 3 Now, O LORD, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live." Isn't this a strong response. These are not traits that we get mad about. 1) Niniveh was the capital of Assyria. Lasted about 2000 years. No other empire as lasted that long. The were unmatched by their cruelty. Best way to deal with personal upraising is to squalling it quickly. Brutal way to dealing with conflict. Not a humanitarian. Ruined the city. Nothing left when they were finished a city. "if you try to revolt you will pay.: 2) They reserved a specific brutality for the Jew. Forced the Jews to marry to the Assyrians. When kids were born. A whole generation was forced to be hated by both. Halfbreed. Know has the Samaritans. Jonah's profeciy is "in forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned." Forty is a symbol of something. A really long time. Forever. Jonah is mad at God? What is the nature of God? We beleive that the World is suppose to work in the world of Charmic Debt. What is just and right. God doesn't believe this. My love is much bigger than you can imagine. "Don’t be too hard on Jonah.
We all have our prejudices, our mortal enemies and our personal grievances.
Imagine someone who committed such vile atrocities, who is so evil he is
absolutely beyond normal redemption. Then he attends your church claiming the
miracle of God’s grace. “He’s faking!” you say. “She’s insincere!”
you exclaim indignantly. “How can God do this to you?” A furious Jonah said it best:
“God is gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and filled with unfailing
love.” Jonah sought righteous judgment against his hated enemy but God
extended the hand of forgiveness. The intimidating stranger used the book of
Jonah as a Biblical litmus test to judge me unworthy and totally missed God’s
point. We seek judgment while God extends grace.
From http://www.sowingseedsoffaith.com/jonah2.htmThis is God's way to tell us that forgiveness is for more that a feeling. Forgiveness is not a feeling. It's an act. Relinquish your right to justice. Once you do this, you will be free. Even you may feel love. Many of have been effected by others. What would it mean to join with this kind of God and join him in the present of forgiveness? This is what God is calling us to. What if you are an enemy of somebody? This story tells us that God as forgiven the most brutal nation of the world. Would you forgive them? How different would the world be! |
posted Mar 14, 2010 8:31 AM by Roger Zuidema
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Shane Hipps-Postor Mars Hill Web Site http://www.marshill.org/sundays/Jonah 3 1And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying, 2Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee. 3So
Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD.
Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey. 4And
Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and
said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. 5So
the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on
sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. 6For
word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and
he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in
ashes. 7And he
caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree
of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor
flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water: 8But
let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God:
yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence
that is in their hands. 9Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? 10And
God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God
repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and
he did it not. One and only prophetic statement in this prophetic book. "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown." Jonah still wasn't into this didn't say much or do a good job of prophecy. Look at other prophetic examples. They are in depth, long, strong, and powerful. The whole city turned and believed. Sackcloth. Images are almost funny, everybody with animals repented. "Relent and with compassion turn" "He had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction." God repented of evil. Can God repent. What is the narrator tyring to say about the nature of God? God is maybe using mirroring. What God is doing in the passage in the ultimate of mirroring. Repenting for the shake of telling the people this is what you do. Is he humiliating Himself? Maybe. It's the ultimate mirror of what life should be like. Alot of Questions? Why does he do it. To connect, so we are not feeling alone. What do you want God to mirror with you at these time in you life? He will. |
posted Mar 7, 2010 6:30 AM by Roger Zuidema
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Jonah - 3rd Week of Lent. Lent is when contemplate things don't make sense, the paradox the confusion. Heading towards resurrection, life and rebirth. Seriously does Jonah really get eating by a fish. Want to keep a open mind to the weirdness of somethings that happen in this world. What does this story mean about your own transformation and shaping? Jonah's Prayer 1 From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the LORD his God. 2 He said: "In my distress I called to the LORD, and he answered me. From the depths of the grave [a] I called for help, and you listened to my cry. 3 You hurled me into the deep, into the very heart of the seas, and the currents swirled about me; all your waves and breakers swept over me. 4 I said, 'I have been banished from your sight; yet I will look again toward your holy temple.' 5 The engulfing waters threatened me, [b] the deep surrounded me; seaweed was wrapped around my head. 6 To the roots of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in forever. But you brought my life up from the pit, O LORD my God. 7 "When my life was ebbing away, I remembered you, LORD, and my prayer rose to you, to your holy temple. 8 "Those who cling to worthless idols forfeit the grace that could be theirs. 9 But I, with a song of thanksgiving, will sacrifice to you. What I have vowed I will make good. Salvation comes from the LORD." 10 And the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land. Chapter 1 vs. 3 Some details: Jonah can afford a year long journey, he is an empowered man of the times, a man that can afford other paths. But he ends up in the belly of a fish! All of the sudden things that mean something, is really worthless. Stuff that is valuable is not long needed. Storms and fish reveal and expose. The storm reveals and exposes what is true. Video Clip: John that has a disease. Cancer, he is going to die. God has provided, and he has great peace about life, calm, joy. God has always taken care of me. What has the storm and the fish revealed? Peace, calmness, profound sense that things will be OK. Life is: Chasing and desiring and wishing and longing and waiting and looking forward to the expecting and hoping and wanting and running after and pursuing.. Jonah's Prayer: 2 types of prayer: Thanksgiving.....and the 2nd type of prayer is HELP. You would assume that Jonah is praying a HELP prayer. But reallly.......this prayer comes from the Psalms of thanksgiving. He has experienced and been rescued and is in the mode of Thanksgiving. We want to be rescued from storms and fish when storms and fish are what often rescue us. Jonah gets rescued from his smallness and pettiness and hard heart and self centeredness and worldview in which everything revolves around him. Some larger questions: 1) Storms and fish are a lot like, "fleeing from the presence of the LORD" Where God is vs. Where God isn't? Gentile sailors vs. prophet of God. The types are switched. The category's are all messed up. traditional vs. contemporary (The label doesn't work) Liberal vs. Conservative (truth to both sides) No longer can label things in this way. Good events vs. bad events...... Maybe the bad event can do more good that the good events. Redemptive process in both. Never will never have world peace when we have dualities. "Are you with me?" God is at work even in both sides. God is bigger than the systems that we create. How do you feel about sailors now? How do you feel about Prophets? So let's trust that God will be there also. Meet God in the paradox, in the confussion. The storm. |
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