updated 24.8.11

The following are links to and commentary on Camden Planning applications that relate to Dalby Street.

To view any planning application in Camden if you know the full application number, follow this procedure

1. Click on this link. If that fails, it may be that the site is not functioning and you should try later: http://planningrecords.camden.gov.uk/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/GeneralSearch.aspx

2. Enter the Application Number, eg 2005/4187/P and press return or click on Search

3. Click on the left hand side towards the top, the application number should show - click on it

4. At the next screen, at the bottom there are five links each providing information. The link “view related documents” provides documents such as S106 agreements which govern the relationship between the owner of the land (the developer and then the flat owners) and the Council. The other links can also have useful information.

The main applications affecting Dalby Street, with links taking you directly to the "view related documents" page are

Planning Application 2005/4187/P. This is the most important of the applications. It contains the S106 agreements. There are actually three agreements being the original s106 dated 10th January 2006, the "re-executed" s106 and the "supplementary" s106 both dated 30th September 2008. Where they conflict – which they do - you  will have an  impossible task working out from them what actually is agreed and what isn’t. For more on that, see the page "the Planning Agreement".

The original s106 is the second posting on 6th March 2006. The other two agreements are in the 11 postings on 12th November 2008 plus the missing page (which we pointed out to Camden), on 14th November. The two postings (of the same document) on 11 December 2008 are an attempt to explain how it is that there were two S106 agreements signed on 30th September 2008, one of which is a “re-executed” version of the original one, only it is selective in what the Council chose to repeat in it.

The “missing page” was Schedule One on page 14, “the Continuing Works Contribution”. If you are good at maths, you can work out how much the developer might have to pay if he takes, say, 3 months longer than required to complete Stage 3. Answer at the bottom of this page*

Planning Application 2008/3688/P. This was a variation to 2005/4187/P made under rules that allow a Council Officer to vary conditions of an agreed application, provided the change is small. See under “the Planning Agreement” , Pedestrian Access Plan re footpath where the serious contradictions in this “Certificate of Lawfulness” or Clopud are explained.


Planning Application 2004/2690/C. Because 52 Prince of Wales Road (part of the site being developed) is in a conservation area, the developer had to comply with certain conditions before he could demolish the building. The developer relied upon this planning permission which lasts for 5 years so was available until towards the end of 2009.

Planning Application 2008/5728/C. This was used to address the conditions in 2004/2690/C referred to above. See pages “Latest News".
On 19.1.09, a posting on this website contained a "Decision" dated 16.12.08 which includes an Informative "1. You are advised that all conditions relating to conservation area consent granted on 23.12.04 (ref 2004/2690/C), which need details to be submitted, have been approved".

The Delegated Report, also posted on 19.1.09, included under "Assessment", the following:

"The redevelopment of this site has now commenced in terms of piling for the foundations. Demolition of the frontage house of no. 52 has temporarily stopped until the conditions on the CA consent have been discharged.

"The 2nd condition requires a contract to be in place for the redevt of the site-although this does not require details to be submitted for approval, the applicant has submitted such details; Council officers have inspected the contract and are satisfied that the owners intend to develop the site". We attached this contract and commented on it on our page "Latest News".

Planning Application 2011/2774/P. This application was for a Certicate of Lawfulnes (Clopud) mainly to change the basement and its vehicular entrance to what it was in 4187. There will now be no car stacking or lifts and the number of cars is reduced to 11. There will be a very steep ramp to and from New Dalby Street and space for vehicles to move appears to be very restricted.

Planning Application 2004/2689/P.  This application was for an earlier scheme which was totally different with regard to its access arrangements. The building itself was also substantially different. When the 2005/4187/P scheme was presented, this earlier one was sometimes referred to and there may be parts of the earlier scheme that were subsumed into the later one such as the requirement for sealed windows. The related number 2004/2690/C referred to above was the justification for demolishing the derelict building at 52 Prince of Wales Road. The sale of the travellers site and Dalby Street was agreed on the proviso that 2004/2689/P would be built. It could not be built when it was known that Network Rail's co-operation had not been available. In any event, its five year period for implementation ended in December 2009.


* £16 million. Another four weeks and it reaches £131 million. Add another week and see what happens. See the page "Findon's other Developments" for the situation of construction stopping for long periods, for example, due to contractor insolvency in early March 2009 on the Developer's "Theatro" site, at early August the site had been closed for 5 months. A 5 month overrun at Talacre would theoretically cost the Developer several billion £s