<Cesar>Still, many people seems to inhabit this mental space with ease, they describe it as a familiar space where everything altogether makes sense.</Cesar> <Andrew>The difference can be a good thing because difference is held in the unity of God.</Andrew> <Cesar>Is openness a characteristic of god? </Cesar> <Raoul>You need to kind of be free, in some part of your life to let down every barrier, and almost think that what you are doing in this world does not mean anything, that you are connected to a deeper meaning to anything, that you don’t understand, but you can just do it. I feel it is important to be agnostic about every- thing. If you don’t have a full understanding of things you just go with what you inner god feeling would be.</Raoul> <Karin>It is very beautiful, it is like you are all together in something. The thing has a life of its own, and everyone is a part of it.</Karin> <Cesar>So the beauty of it, overpass from far the need to understand this state of openness./Cesar> <Andrew>Faith and learning to trust is a sort of natural human activity. Maybe one of the pre-requisite is having some experience in faith or trust placed in one. Sometimes you know where you are, and that’s maybe because in the tradition has mapped the ground very well, lots of people done this journey, but then there is moments you just have to... They haven’t done that journey, so you have to think : “Well I just trust this is going to be OK...”.</Andrew> <Cesar>Openness is made possible by faith, which is a form of absolute trust in an abstract belief, an adoration or respect of something higher or omni potent. </Cesar> <Andrew>There is another oneness of spirituality, there is quite a lot of material in the Christian journey that says “the closer people journey to god, the greatest sense of openness they have with other human beings and with creation.</An- drew> <Cesar>Is this oneness really enclosing everything or is this oneness open to something we might not know?</Cesar> <Andrew>I think it’d be open to what we don’t know, because there is always something elusive about god, beyond, not knowable, so it always got to remain open , can’t ever get to a point “sorted!” (...) Somebody talked about mystery, about something being knowable, but you can keep on knowing it, rather than something that is unknowable that has to be fathomed all the time.</Andrew> <Raoul>I think no one really knows and that’s the beauty of it right? If you knew that would dispel the magic around it.</Raoul> <Cesar>In Islam the doctrinal oneness of god “Tawhid” is the central pilar of the faith, inalterable, unquestionable. Such a simple coherent interpretation of the universe allows one to evolve with a lot of confidence, having acquired a comfortable “mental image” of the universe : even if we don’t know where we are going, we know we are always inside this familiar thing, infinite and indescribable, and we know it as such. If we consider this oneness of the universe as a subject of study - not as context of study - we can describe our situation as a non-relative context.</Cesar> |