<Cesar>A strong modern society often has a strong naive ideal that everyone can use as
focus point. May it be freedom, peace, power, brotherhood, progress, quality of
life, harmony, submission to god, large groups of people tend to be under control
of abstract utopias they never fulfil. Setting such high stakes automatically create
eternal state of semi-frustration, discrepancies  and social groups. These sub-social
group generates their own specialised stakes making the society abound of sub
focal points.
Modern times have seen human groups mixing (migration) getting complex and
multiplication of medias and philosophies putting individuals in a paradoxical
starvation to belong to a group and an unprecedented social mobility (capacity to
change group one belongs to).
As an example of the social mechanism I have chosen a common denominator to
many voluntary humanist ventures : altruism.
 
If social structures are fragile because of humans, that means that the human
desire for social structures is fragile.</Cesar>
<Nina>Yes. I think any social structure is based on naivety, that’s the only way it
can survive and that’s the only way it can begin, and after a while if you build it
strong enough it becomes a structure in itself you can stay within. The only way
to construct a new collective venture is by freeing yourself of any logic or any
experience because you know by default it will break at one point, you know that
relationships don’t last, love is fleeting... All these things.</Nina>
<Cesar>So you need to have some disillusioned naivety.</Cesar>
<Nina>I guess so. You can do with the pure naivety but most people have to do it
through a refound naivety I guess, a chosen one.</Nina>

<Angel>I don’t believe in altruism.</Angel>
<Cesar>Not at all? So how do you put the people together toward an objective
without altruism?</Cesar>
<Angel>Because of self-interest, that’s the best way to do it.</Angel>
<Cesar>Capitalistic?<Cesar>
<Angel>You can name it capitalistic, I think this is a very narrow way of describ-
ing social events. But I think self-interest is the most powerful force in relation-
ships.</Angel>
<Natalie>By re-framing our activities in the “environmental health clinic” (al-
truistic group), we take environmental issues and reframe them in terms of your
own environmental health, personal self-interested health. But as a critique of the
medical model : the medical model says health is internal, biological, inherited,
genetic, atomized, individual... The major advantage of environmental health is
: anything you do to improve your local environmental health (air quality, water
quality...) The benefit is not only enjoyed by you, but anybody else you share this
environment with. Self-interested environmental health has benefit as a locally
optimized, but can aggregate to really substand significant (general) environmen-
tal effect.</Natalie>
Even a selfish behaviour can have a very positive impact on the community.
It comes back to the fact that open architecture is also collaborating with your
enemies : in a large group of people, each participants can pull in every direction,
it will be perceived as an internal brownian motion inside a larger coherent movement.