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  1. What about hygiene? (And its High Philosophy)

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    Links:

    Money-Free - Creating a World Without Money

    The Moneyless World information site
    Created by el Pavlik (see below)
    Contains links to movements you can join to start creating a moneyless world!

    The Zeitgeist Movement
    visions of a moneyless world from some different perspectives than my own.

    Quotes about money & banking 

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    SOME OTHER FOLKS 
    VOLUNTARILY LIVING MONEYLESS
    IN THE MODERN WORLD:


    Heidemarie Schwermer
    living moneyless in Germany since 1996.
     
    Mark Boyle,
    An Irishman living moneyless in the UK
    freeconomy, online gift-economy community he founded
    His book, The Moneyless Man

    Raphael, Benjamin, Nieves & Camille (Forward the (R)evolution):
    from Germany & France (repectively) hitch-hiking & boat-hopping around the world with no money, raising consciousness. 

    Peace Pilgrim
    Most hard-cord of all of us!  She lived nearly 30 years without money, wandering North America with nothing but the clothes she wore & a few items in her pockets until she died at age 79!

    elf Pavlik,
    Gave up money a couple years ago on the European continent (he claims no nationality or state I.D.) and has been bringing us moneyless folks together into a cohesive movement. 

    Tomi Astikainen
    from Finland.  He gave up money a couple years ago and has been traveling internationally since.  He is writing an online book for free!

     
    Adin,
    proving "Umbutu" in South Africa.  He started a 5-year experiment in 2009 of not spending money, though he raises it, not for himself, but for good causes.

    Sonja Kruse,
    proving "Umbutu", in South Africa.  She wandered without money for about a year and discontinued it to do other grand things with her life.

    Öff Öff Jürgen Wagner,

    in Germany. Theologian living moneyless (I hope to update about him when I know more).

    There are probably others I've missed and many more who are off the grid and under the radar who can't be listed here.

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    Audio & Videos

    Moneyless In Moab  (15 min) 2006 docu-film by Gordon Stevenson

    Zero Currency (10 min) 2009 docu-film by Brad Barber
     
    Beehive Stories: Grand County (5:48 min) KBYU TV docu-film, part of a Utah series by Brad Barber, taken from filming for Zero Currency above.

    Two videos, featuring Mark Boyle & Suelo, made by our wandering Christian friends:

    Money As Debt
    (47 min) Banking & money explained so simply a child can understand it.  After watching, I challenge you to ask yourself: Is it possible to ethically do any business with any bank anywhere?

    I Know It Is Possible To Live With Zero Money, Abundantly

     How?  Because it's happening to me,
    as it's happening to ants and deer and slugs and sparrows
    and bacteria and atoms and galaxies. 
    That's right, it's 
    Nothing Special.  
    It's happening to the whole, infinite universe
    outside our teeny-tiny itty-bitty Babylon we call "civilization"
    (which we think is the whole universe). 
     
    Yup, I boast! 
    I boast about
    Nothing Special
    Let the Nothing-Specials boast,
    for Babylon has boasted its dilusions of "value" & "progress",
    and trampled Nature,
    shat on Beauty, 
    long enough.
    Enough
     
    "My Gratis is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in Weakness.  Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my Weaknesses"
            --Apostle Paul
     
    Faqr Fakhri
    "Poverty is my Pride."
            --Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh
     
    I've been living without a cent to my name since the autumn of 2000 (with a month's exception during my first year). I don't use or accept money or conscious barter, and I don't take food stamps or other government dole (not that I think those things are bad or that those who use them are in any way inferior).
     
    And, after years of doing this, to my joy, I've learned there are other people in the world doing the same.
     
    Why? I simply got tired of acknowledging as real this most common world-wide belief called money!
    I simply got tired of being unreal.
    Money is one of those intriguing things that becomes real because you believe it is real.
    Wild Nature, outside civilization, runs on gift economy:
    "freely give, freely receive."
    Thus it is balanced.
    Commercial civilization runs on consciousness of credit and debt (knowledge of good & evil);
    thus it is imbalanced.

    What nation on earth can even balance its own budget or environment?

    Gift Economy is Faith, Grace, Love - the message at the heart of every religion,
    though rejected by virtually every religious institution. 


    The proof is inside you:


    Wild Nature is your True Nature, crucified by commercial civilization.
     
    One Day, in the Present, 
    we will dis-cover
    True Civilization:
    New Jerusalem,
    descending from Now,
    Above!
    --yes, Artistic Splendor
    that makes what we now call "civilization"
    pale to absurdity!
     
     
     
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    THINGS ABOUT MONEY
    "THEY" DON'T TEACH YOU:
    Essays Sprouted in El Suelo:
     
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    2. Here's the One Point We Know the World's Religions Agree Upon

    (In word, anyway, though few practice it.)

     
    3.  Our Fall From Grace: Our Departure From Gratis: The Beginning of Money (Examining the Meaning of the Universal Myth of Stealing Fire From Heaven)
     
    4. Love & Possessions - Sex & Money (Finding the link between personal relations, world  religions, and the world system)
     
     
     
    6. How to Become Free From Debt [revised 11/29/2011]

    7. A Culture Living Abundantly Without Money Today

     
    (Hard-core Bible theology withheld from you by church business interests)
     
     
    10. I Am Who I Am, the Way, the Truth, and the Life: Name Above All Names [originally entitled To Be Yourself Is To Be Perfect]
    What? How can you say Christianity is Islam is Buddhism is Hinduism is Taoism is Judaism? By practicing your Christianity!

    11.
    Contradiction between Eastern Religion and Christianity? Non-Dualism embraces Dualism?

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    If there were no debts in our money system, there wouldn’t be any money.
     - Marriner S. Eccles, former Chairman and Governor of the Federal Reserve Board
    Forgive us our debts
    even as we forgive our debtors.

     -Jesus

    I seek refuge in you from sin and from being in debt.
      -Muhammad 

    Owe no one anything,
    except to love one another.

     -Paul


    And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.
    --Thomas Jefferson in his letter to John Taylor, May 28, 1816 [The Thomas Jefferson Papers, Library of Congress]





    Before our white brothers came to civilize us we had no jails. Therefore we
     had no criminals. You can’t have criminals without a jail. We had no locks or keys, and so we had no thieves. If a man was so poor that he had no horse, tipi or blanket, someone gave him these things. We were too uncivilized to set much value on personal belongings. We wanted to have things only in order to give them away. We had no money, and therefore a man’s worth couldn’t be measured by it. We had no written law, no attorney or politicians, therefore we couldn’t cheat. We were in a really bad way before the white man came, and I don’t know how we managed to get along without the basic things which, we are told, are absolutely necessary to make a civilized society.
    -- Lakota Sage Lame Deer (from John Lame Deer, Seeker of Visions)


     
    You can't get rich if you treat your relatives right.
    You can't get rich without cheating people.  
    Cheating people is the wrong way.
    That way gets you into trouble.
    Men should be honest to get along.
     --Anonymous Navajo Leader (p. 32, The Book of the Navajo, RF Locke, 2001) 


     
    Question to Peace Pilgrim "Why don't you accept money?"
     
    Peace PilgrimBecause I talk about spiritual truth, and spiritual truth should never be sold - those who sell it injure themselves spiritually....
    "Those who attempt to buy spiritual truth are attempting to get it before they are ready. In this wonderfully well-ordered universe, when they are ready it will be given.
     



    Non-possession is allied to non-stealing. A thing not originally stolen must nevertheless be classified as stolen property, if we possess it without needing it.  Possession implies provision for the future. A seeker after Truth, a follower of the law of Love, cannot hold anything against tomorrow. God never stores for the morrow.  He never creates more than what is strictly needed for the moment. If, therefore, we repose faith in His Providence, we should rest assured that He will give us every day our daily bread, meaning everything that we require.... Our ignorance or negligence of the Divine Law, which gives to man from day to day his daily bread and no more, has given rise to inequalities with all the miseries attendant upon them. The rich have superfluous store of things which they do not need and which are, therefore, neglected and wasted, while millions are starved to death for want of sustenance.
     


    Those who wish to make room for the Lord must find pleasure not in private, but in common property…. Redouble your charity. For, on account of the things which each one of us possesses singly, wars exist, hatreds, discords, strifes among human beings, tumults, dissensions, scandals, sins, injustices, and murders. On what account? On account of those things which each of us possesses singly. Do we fight over the things we possess in common? We inhale this air in common with others, we all see the sun in common. Blessed therefore are those who make room for the Lord, so as not to take pleasure in private property. Let us therefore abstain from the possessions of private property—or from the love of it, if we cannot abstain from possession—and let us make room for the Lord.
    --Saint Augustine (354–430 CE)  [Commentary on Psalm 131], unanimous with virtually all the early church fathers & mothers. Is this the same religion as what passes itself off as Christianity today? Augustine is beloved (in word) by both Evangelicals and Catholics. Augustine gave up his possessions to the poor.



    O
    nly when the last tree has died,
    the last river has been poisoned

    and the last fish has been caught,
    will we realize that we can't eat money.
    -- Cree Proverb
     
     




    I am poor and naked but I am the chief of a nation. We do not want
    riches but we do want to train our children right. Riches would do us no good. We could not take them with us to the other world. We do not want riches. We want peace and love.
    --Red Cloud, Oglala Sioux~
     
     






    In proportion as he Simplifies his Life, the The image “http://wav3.com/WAV3Site.data/Components/Thoreau%20Page/Henry_David_Thoreau.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.Laws of the Universe will appear less complex, and Solitude will not be solitude, nor Poverty poverty, nor Weakness weakness.  
    --Henry David Thoreau
     




    I am in utter poverty by reason of my devotion to the God.
    I know that my plainness of speech makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a proof that I am speaking the truth?
    . . . .
    I am that gadfly which God has given the state and all day long and in all places am always fastening upon you, arousing and persuading and reproaching you... 
    . . . .
    And that I am given to you by God is proved by this: - that if I had been like other men, I should not have neglected all my own concerns, or patiently seen the neglect of them during all these years... exhorting you to regard virtue; this I say, would not be like human nature.
    And had I gained anything, or if my exhortations had been paid, there would have been some sense in that:
    but now, as you will perceive,
    not even the impudence of my accusers dares to say that I have ever exacted or sought pay of anyone; they have no witness of that.
    And I have a sufficient witness to the truth of what I say--my poverty. 
     
                       --Socrates [Plato's Apology]



     
    Never have We sent
    an apostle to any nation
    without the wealthy saying,
    "We do not believe
    the message you bring."
    (Quran 34:34)




     
    "No servant can serve two masters,
    for either he will hate the one
    and love the other,
    or he will be devoted to the one
    and despise the other.
    You cannot work for God and money." 
     The Pharisees, who were lovers of money,
    heard all these things,
    and they ridiculed Jesus.

    (Luke 16:13-14)
     

    Better than ritual practice [abhyasa]

    is knowledge [jnana, or gnosis];

    Better than knowledge [jnana]

    is concentration [dhyana, or zen];

    Better than concentration
    is renunciation of the reward of all action,

    from which directly issues Peace.

    (Bhagavad Gita 12:12)


        And what is money 

        but the representation of 

        the reward of action?



    The use of money, talent, cleverness
    t
    o gain power
    or deriving power from any use of these is evil. 
    But there is a power which is in no way related
    to that power which is evil. 

    This power is not to be bought
    through worship, prayers and self-denying
    or self-destructive meditations. 
    All effort to become or to be
    must wholly, naturally, cease. 
    Only then that power which is not evil, can be.

    --Krishnamurti (p.23, Krishnamurti's Notebook)


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