Thoughts on the Speed of Light Statement - "If
the speed limit for the universe is the speed of light at ~186,000 miles per second
then, with respect to what is this limit measured against? Relativity proposes
inertial reference frames. This only begs the question which inertial reference frame
is the limit with respect to, the source of the light’s inertial reference
frame or any and all of the inertial reference frames in the lights path.
Either way this leads to a constant changing velocity of light with respect to
any and all of the reference frames in the lights path and thus any and all
frames in which the light can be observed. Thus, the speed of light can never
be considered constant with respect to it’s point of origin and or any
observational internal reference frame, for the light is slowing down or speeding
up as it traverses the cosmos so as to keep a constant 186,000 miles per second
with respect to and in any given inertial reference frame. What all this means
is that when we look out into the cosmos we cannot assume any given amount of
time for the light to have reached us since it has passed through a innumerable
number of inertial reference frames and had to either speed up or slow down to
keep its “consistency” (dark matter and dark energy only compound the problem).
Given that so many inertial reference frames are moving at several times the speed of
light with respect to our own, any light that has come in contact with those
inertial reference frames has been significantly affected by each of those
frames as the light passed through those
frames to reach us. Either way there is
no way of using the "constant speed of light" to ascertain distance
to or time in the past with respect to any cosmological body." Allen Daves ---------- Response 1 - "In
relativity, special anyway, it's the same in all frames of reference. I.e., the
speed does not depend upon the speed of the source." Neville T. Jones, PhD ---------- Response 2 - Dr. Neville T. Jones is right on this according to Einstein's "thought experiments"...such as running toward the front or back of a train moving at the speed of light. The
overriding error in all such considerations is the attribution of the label
"scientific" to the very concept of "relativity". The spiritual fact of the matter is that the
Superstar 13th century Kabbalist Raban Nachmanides postured the
"relativity" concept along with heliocentricity (300 years before
Copernicus) and a Big Bang Expanding Universe concept, all of which (along with
Kabbalist 1st century Sage HaKanna's 15.3 billion year age of the
universe). These dots (along with Rabam
Maimonides' 12th century Zionist world rule concept) were connected by the
"Divine Kabbalist Rebbe Isaac Luria in the 16th century (on the heels of
Copernicus' book) and were carried out by wacko Kepler, opportunist Galileo,
Kabbalist-friendly Newton (helped along by the Churches' cave-in on
heliocentricity) through the science-free Darwinian/Kabbalism (and Marxism and
Freudianism), and then picked up in earnest by Einstein, Friedmann, Bohr,
Gamow, Penzias, Sagan, Goldin, Schroeder, and a couple of gentiles. Together,
the Pharisee Kabbalists have planted all these factless concepts in the
textbooks of the world through computer programmed fraudulent use of redshift
and infrared technology and have all but replaced Biblical Creationism with a
virtual reality Big Bang Evolutionary Paradigm posing as "secular"
(!) science (when it is derived root and branch from the Pharisee 'holy
book" Zohar/Kabbala). [How
many "truth seekers" bursting with knowledge about the Illuminati
syndrome, etc., are securely in the Zionist's clutches because they have not
seen...or will not check these indisputable facts for themselves, facts which
prove that the anti-Bible "Keystone Fact" upholding the entire
Pharisaic BB Evolutionary Paradigm is the totally vulnerable Copernican
mathematical model of a rotating, orbiting Earth??] Einstein
became the butt of cartoons and jokes in England early on for his relativity
claims based on the illusion that one's train is moving (when it isn't) because
the train next to it in the station is moving.
The cartoon depicted someone on a decoupled, stationary train calling
out: "Excuse me, has Manchester gone by here yet?" In
short, simply using "relativity" as if it is a scientific fact, lends
credibility to any other feature of the Big Bang Evolutionary Idol now approaching
its prophesied hour of "revelation".
God is a jealous God. HE will expose and destroy this Idol and all that
rests upon it first (Rev. 14:6,7,8), bringing "Babylon" (confusion)
down and separating the populations of the world (R.18:4) into overt Satan
worshipers (R.Ch.13:4, etc.) and those who stay on God's side (v.7; etc.). The
looming choice for all mankind is purely and simply whether one will choose to
worship the Biblical God and His Son Jesus when all Truth (scientific and
religious) is Revealed (Rev. 17:14; 18:4; etc.), or whether one will choose to
worship Satan (because they think he will win: (Rev. 13:4) and his human
surrogate, the "Beast"). Not
incidentally, the esteemed Kabbalist Rebbe Ashlag (1922; Jerusalem) revealed
the role of "physics" in establishing "relativity" and the
Kabbalist Universe. He also spilled the
beans by saying that Satan is the Kabbalist g'd. It's spiritual warfare from start to finish. Real science is 100% on the Bible's side, as will be shown in Babylon's Fall, due "one hour" after a Global Government is established. Marshall Hall ----------
Response 3 - Yes, the speed is the same in all reference frames ...186,000 miles per second, that is my point . The frames themselves are moving at different speeds with respect to each other ... thus the light that is traveling in each of those frames (each photon) that has not yet reached the observer in our frame is only traveling 186,000 miles per second in each and every frame it comes in contact with ... this is true because light on a path exists as a wave and/or particle but each photon does not exist everywhere along its path in all reference frames simultaneously! ... Thus, any given photon only exists at that moment in its path at 186,000 miles per second in that reference frame ... This is the point - the photon does not exist everywhere along its path simultaneously ... therein is the rub I refer to with respect to how long that particular photon took to reach us, because the photon only exists at 186,000 miles per second in each frame but each frame is not static with repect to any other frame ... the only logical explanation is to claim that each photon exists everywhere in the universe along its given path in all reference frames simultaneously ... if you do not make the claim then my point should be self-evident and there would be no objective way to measure distance or time given all the various inertial reference frames that exist along with Dark Matter, Dark Energy and now Dark Flow which all make up over 80% of the universe now. Allen Daves ----------
Response 4 - In
relativity the speed of light is determined by the inertial reference frame in
fact it claims that in strong gravitational fields the 186,000 miles per second limit is not a
limit ... but the point was not to argue that per se but rather to show... 1. to make the speed of light a constant it must be constant with respect to something and/or everything else must be consistent with repect to it as an "absolute speed limit". & 2.
"OK let's assume for the sake of the argument", that inertial reference frames are what that speed
is determined with respect to as STR (Special Theory of Relativity) claims... ...the end result is that light takes time to "reach us" and the photon traveling to us does not exist everywhere along its path simultaneously ... since it passes through innumerable inertial reference frames its speed being determined 186,000 miles per second with respect to each of those individual inertial reference frames there is no logical way to determine time in the past looking at "distant" objects without calculating the relative speeds of all inertial reference frames with respect to ours ... this includes Dark Matter, Dark Energy and Dark Flow (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, CMBR) reference frames as well. Allen Daves
---------- Response 5 - The
speed in SR is static insomuch as it is invariant across any frame of
reference. Hence the velocity in our frame is 186,000 ml/s and thus travel time
is able to be worked out from distance. The relative motion of different frames
(coordinate systems) is thus irrelevant. Neville T. Jones, PhD ----------
Response 6 - General
Relativity does not require the constant velocity of light in vacuo, which is
not surprising, because it was stolen from David Hilbert (a real genius) and
was nothing to do with Einstein. This explains why Einstein shrugged his shoulders
when the inconsistency between SR and GR was pointed out to him. Einstein was
basically an idiot and plagiarist. Neville T. Jones, PhD ----------
Response 7 - And remember Big Al was offered the first presidency of Zionist Israel in '48, and Time Magazine named him the most outstanding man in the 20th century. Why? He
deserved it because he ended the 20 year funk in the universities over the 200
Michelson-Morley interferometer tests which showed no Earth movement, and he
did it with his Kabbalist numbers voodooism by establishing the Relativity
concept so no one could say the Earth was the inert center of the
universe. He deserved his fame and
prizes from those who gave it all to him, namely the
Zionist/Talmudist/Kabbalist Pharisee Satanists. Marshall Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |