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'Science' or 'faith', that is the question. And scientists can get very touchy when it is pointed out to them that their position is one of faith, not science. Neville Jones, PhD
"The ancient Greeks said that the sun was only about 3 million miles from the Earth. This was the number given by Ptolemy and the great Arab astronomer al-Battani. The rotating Earth people stuck a 9 in front of the 3 and with this mathematical sleight of hand we have a sun whose distance from the Earth is exaggerated 30 times." Niall Kilkenny
The unattached and separate thin layer of gas ( atmosphere ) surrounding the Earth's solid and liquid surface is not rotating and is not "velcroed" to the Earth's surface. And that is why it takes the same amount of time for a jet airliner to travel 3,000 miles eastward from Point A to Point B as it does westward from Point B to Point A.
"The Big Bang Paradigm in all its parts, including heliocentricity, is not 'secular science' but demonstrably an alternative 'religious creation scenario' derived from the Kabbala of the Pharisee religion and put in place by a 'theoretical science establishment'." Marshall Hall
"... it is an indisputable fact that stellar parallax, like the phases of Venus, has been widely cited as "proof" that the World orbits the Sun. This is unfortunate, since the phenomenon proves no such thing. The only thing it does prove is that either the World is moving with respect to the stars, or that the stars are moving with respect to the World." Neville T. Jones, PhD
"Once heliocentrism's religious roots are authenticated the burden upon the USA Courts is to create rulings that prohibit public funding of the Pharisee Religion’s “creation scenario” resting on theoretical "heliocentric science.” Marshall Hall
"Unproven assumptions that are required to explain phenomena that are readily explained without the assumptions constitute false science." Marshall Hall
"As for evidence upholding both models in the scientific realm, observational evidence always trumps assumed evidence. In other words, observed, never contradicted factual evidence is scientific truth, and unobserved assumptive evidence which contradicts observed-certified evidence is false. I know of no assumptions that are required in the geocentrism model, and I know of nothing but assumptions that are both interdependent and indispensable to the heliocentricity model." Marshall Hall
"The other major difference between this model and that of Newton is that the force of gravity in the latter is something inherent to anything which possesses mass. In this new model, however, there is no mutual attraction between objects, but only the effect of the gravitational field undeniably exerted by the world upon material objects close to it." Neville T. Jones, PhD
"I think we're pretty close to throwing out all talk of "gravity" and concluding that all of the phenomena formerly attributed to it is really the working of perfectly balanced interactive electromagnetic forces involving the whole universe with our immovable Earth at the center of it all." Marshall Hall
"If you board a helicopter on the east coast of the USA, lift off vertically and hover above the ground for four hours, then set down on the ground again, you will be in the same location that you lifted off from. If the Earth were rotating counter-clockwise at an equatorial speed of 1040 mph then the helicopter should have set down on the west coast of the USA. Therefore the Earth is not rotating."
"If the Earth were hurtling through space to orbit the sun at a velocity of 67,062 miles per hour then the Earth's atmosphere would be left behind like a comet's tail. Therefore the Earth is not in solar orbit."
"The alleged tilt of the Earth is symbiotically connected to the alleged rotation which in turn is symbiotically connected to the alleged Earth orbit of the sun. Remove one, nothing works in the wholly assumption-based heliocentric model." Marshall Hall
"On a clear, calm and sunny day we can go outside and see, feel and observe that it is the sun that is orbiting the Earth and not the Earth orbiting the sun. One can see, feel and sense no movement of the Earth and one can see, feel and sense only stillness. This observation and experiment is scientific."
"It is worthwhile noting that credibility as regards the sizes of the sun and moon discs producing the observed solar eclipse effect that we marvel at sits more comfortably with the intelligent design position that Geocentrism tends to imply, rather than with the heliocentrists and their claim of 'coincidence.'" Neville T. Jones, PhD
"What power other than supernatural could cause the sun to oscillate ( spiral ) from the northern Tropic of Cancer to the southern Tropic of Capricorn in six months then alter its path and spiral north for six months to again repeat the cycle?" Philip Madsen
"An Earth system model wherein the sun goes around the Earth following the ecliptic path that is inseparable from the heliocentric model is not required at all in the Geocentrism model... Using the 'solar system' heliocentricity path of orbit on a Geocentrism model doesn't work because that path is not actually part of the Geocentrism model." Marshall Hall
"I do not deny the influence of (a) politics at the local puppet level, (b) religious (occult) at the top , and (c) The Money Power which is the main tool of the occult conspiracy. I can accept that many in scientific employment of these influences can be duped, even if not willing participants in fraudulent science. Some may even consider the justification for a "Good Lie" especially when their livelihood depends on having this opinion. That is where the true Christian must 'flee from it' ." Philip Madsen
"Clearly heliocentricity is a pseudoscience. As we have said elsewhere, once the false facade of science is removed, heliocentricity is seen for what it truly is: a faith system and therefore, by many definitions, a religion."
"The zionist theoretical science network is gigantic and worldwide. They create one false-science government funding scam after another. We must get rid of the entire network. We are in a battle against deceptive intelligence. Don't let the zionists outsmart you!"
"I always thought of the Big Bang theory as just being a silly speculation. I consider the theory to be a sign that universities are allowing all sorts of goofballs to get college degrees, especially in math and physics. And then after they get a college degree, since they can't do anything productive, they just waste their time creating idiotic theories." E.H.
"We have been unable to find any proof at all that the Earth rotates on an "axis" daily and orbits the sun annually. As far as we can tell, such a theory has never been proven. Also, we have been unable to find any scientists who will agree, by observation and experimentation, to prove Copernicus' theory without including heliocentric assumptions in the model (which defeats the purpose since the model would already have the assumption of motion built into it)." Thomas Cobb
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Super-smart, Highly-educated University Graduates and PhD's
"...... and why does S.H. ( professor and Ph.D. ) imply that the heliocentricity idea is really true as the official Theoretical Science Establishment claims? You might respond that he has simply not had the time to look at the Geocentric facts, and that he may find the time to deal with that issue later. As I have tried to explain many times, we are foolish to make excuses for people in leadership positions. Instead of excusing their stupidity and ignorance, we should tell them to find another job, and let somebody with more abilities take their position. S.H. claims to be a highly-educated and intelligent person with the ability to analyze Einstein's theories and show us that Einstein plagiarized those theories. However, if he's that intelligent and educated, he should take about thirty minutes to figure out that the heliocentric stationary-sun idea is a hoax, and maybe twenty minutes to figure out that the Apollo moon-landing was a hoax. I'm just a lowly high-school graduate, and once I looked at the information on Geocentrism, it only took me forty minutes to figure out that heliocentricity was a hoax. Therefore, these super-smart, highly-educated university graduates and PhD's should be able to do it in less time than me." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is irritating even to have to argue with someone who has a contra-Geostationary worldview because it dignifies the incredible gall of heliocentrists who think they can contradict the most obvious scientifically observed evidence, and what's worse, use Geocentrists' tax dollars to explore the false worldview of heliocentricity but deny Geocentrists the use of heliocentrists' tax dollars to explore the correct worldview of Geocentrism." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am afraid, that just one fact that can be shown to contradict a whole load of [heliocentric] assumptions is entirely sufficient to bring the whole deck of cards built with those assumptions down. This applies in science, logic, mathematics, law, theology and history." Dr. Neville T. Jones ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The purpose of the Michelson-Morley experiment was to measure the speed of the World with respect to the aether. They obtained an almost null result. Hence, Messieurs Michelson and Morley ought to have at least included the following in their conclusions: "The World gives no indication of motion with respect to the aether." Perfectly reasonable statement, I would have thought. However, the most obvious conclusion is not even mentioned. Rather, four other "reasons" are invented in order to cover the egg on their faces - and for this, Albert Michelson won the Nobel Prize for physics. Still, if the Braggs' can get a Nobel Prize for a bit of high school trigonometry, then why shouldn't Michelson get one for failing to demonstrate what everyone just "knows" to be true?" Neville T. Jones, PhD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "... a lot of the information that's taught at school is inaccurate, and some of it is Zionist propaganda. Take a look at how many college graduates believe in heliocentricity and the Apollo moon landing. Those graduates wasted thousands of dollars and many years of their lives to memorize Zionist propaganda. They are suckers." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I'm quite satisfied that heliocentrism has not been proven scientifically but that the Geocentric case has. GWW ( Galileo Was Wrong ) is a book that ... has brought together much of the scientific evidence for Geocentrism, and the obvious prejudicial way in which it has been, not just dismissed, but eradicated from the text books. To me this gives even more credence to the Biblical account of creation. The same goes for evolution and the materialistic explanation that everything came from nothing with no external help. Scientifically speaking this must be the bizarrest idea ever conceived, because it is utterly impossible whereas a Creator makes plain common sense." Jack Lewis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
July 27, 2007 - THIS JUST IN this morning ... a rocket test exploded at the Rutan [ of SpaceShipOne fame ] test facility in the Mohave desert killing and injuring a number of people ... nitrous oxide fuel which is not considered "explosive" was the cause ... at this point the cause of the explosion is unknown ... my question ... coupled with the adjacent headline that NASA computers were "compromised" before shipment to the ISS space station ... leads me to think that also given the time-line of August 12th and the impending passage of the "security bill" by congress ( to protect you from "terror" ) and all the other issues coming down the pike right now ... this raises the serious question as to whether Rutan's operation was sabotaged ... i have told you all along that private space ventures are not on the list of "OK" items with the new world order bunch who think that space is their private playground and have the host of black ops behind the scene operations going on ( the real space program ) ... more on this as it develops ... Jim McCanney ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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