There is Something about Space that THEY Don't Want You to Know:
The Earth is NOT Moving!!
contradicts the assertions of Mainstream Science's existing deceitful, fraud-ridden, unscientific, unverifiable
State-funded model of the universe that is saturated with metaphysical nonsense and derived from
the mystical Zohar/Kabbala of the Pharisee RELIGION. Moreover, the intelligible Christian Bible's
voluntarily-funded Geocentric/Geostatic model of the universe proclaims that
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- Current Threat Level is High (Orange).
- The Threat Level in the Space "Exploration" Sector is also High.
IT SUNBELIEVABLE!
The Geocentric (Geostatic) model has challenged and defeated the heliocentric model as being
the best description of the cosmological environment in which we live.
Geocentrism (also called Geostatic = stationary Earth, moving sun) is the Most Exciting,
the Fastest Growing and Most Significant Truth Movement on the Internet!
The Geocentric Cosmogony will Thrive Because it is True. It's Adherents are Multiplying,
and are the Most Intelligent of Men and Women!
forces in the universe and because it is the absolute reference frame and that to which the rest of the
universe was built/created around and affixed to. The universe is attached to the Earth, not the Earth to the universe."
*Right image (above): The sun's path, fixed within the rotating firmament, spiral-orbits the Earth north-south
The fact that the Sun orbits the Earth really is true. True regardless of whether anyone believes it.
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Geocentrism (GC, also called Geostatic) = "Earth-centered" = no rotational revolvement of Earth, SPHERICAL Earth, no orbital revolvement of Earth, no "axial tilt" of Earth, sun orbitally revolves around Earth daily, sun spiral-orbits Earth yearly, stars orbitally revolve around Earth nightly. Universe has Earth as center, is small (can be as low as 500,000 mile radius and still account for retrograde motion of planets), young and created by God. Derived from Bible Christianity. Studies and experiments mostly voluntarily financed by Family paycheck ("human creationism"), creating good "karma" or Spiritual Blessings, resulting in research and education truths.
Heliocentricity (HC) = "Sun-centered" = Earth rotationally revolves around its axis nightly, spherical Earth, Earth has "axial tilt", sun is stationary to Earth, Earth orbitally revolves around sun yearly, stars stationary to Earth. Universe is acentric (AC = no center), large, old and was created by itself (LOL!!!). Derived from Kabbala Pharisaism. Studies and experiments mostly coercively financed by State taxpayer ("human destructionism" or "theftism" because all State taxation is theft), creating bad "karma" or Spiritual Curses, resulting in research and education lies.
Geocentrism is scientific, logical and true. Heliocentrism is unscientific, illogical and false.
Planet means "wanderer"...... The Earth is NOT a planet.
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Facts: (by Marshall Hall):
- THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE EARTH ROTATES ON AN "AXIS" DAILY AND ORBITS THE SUN ANNUALLY. NONE.
- All calculations for eclipses, the space program, navigation, satellite movements - anything that
demands precision and accuracy - are based on a non-moving Earth. Boiled down, heliocentric math is the same as Geocentric [also called Geostatic] math.
- NO EXPERIMENT HAS SHOWN THE EARTH TO BE MOVING (much less at 30 times rifle bullet speed in solar orbit and at 250 times RBS around a galaxy. One would think such speeds would flap one's collar a little even if the "science" establishment says no!)
- Multiple experiments have shown the Earth to be stationary.
- Revisionist history reveals the roles that Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Sagan et al have played in foisting this LIE on mankind.
- The logic against a moving Earth is overpowering.
- WORLD-CLASS astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle said take your pick between the two models.
- Copernicanism paved the way for Darwinism (which then spawned Marxism, Freudism, Einsteinism and Saganism.)
- Star speeds are not a problem when the thickness of the universe is seen to be what it really is, that is, LESS than half a light day thick (8 billion mile radius).
- NASA's space program is labelled "Origins Research" and costs taxpayers mega-bucks. Computerized telescopes are programmed to send back "synthesized images". The "image warper" permits "geometric transformations" while "origins technology... configures the multiple small mirrors..." in these telescopes. Talk about a con job!
- The Bible says [67 Scriptural references HERE] The Earth is NOT Moving and cannot be moved. What'll it be folks? False science as the source of absolute truth... or God's Word?
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Question: Why is it (the stationary Earth truth) important?
- "The characteristic of Communism is that nothing is what they say it is. They always have a hidden agenda which they always deny. Their standard practice is to make you disbelieve your own eyes." Henry Makow. [Examples of State Communism are state-financed astrophysics education and state-financed space 'exploration'].
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Geocentric means World-centred. In particular, a geocentric universe is one in which the centres of the World and of the (finite) universe coincide. Observational data, together with our instincts or senses, indicate to us that the universe is in reality geocentric. In addition, all physical experiments designed to demonstrate some alleged motion of the World have consistently produced a null result. Only theoretical ideas support a different interpretation of our surroundings than this...... We feel no motion of the World on which we all live. Furthermore, no experiment in all physics has ever demonstrated that the World moves around the Sun, or that it rotates on an axis. From the standpoint of our senses, therefore, it seems simply common sense to attribute the motion of the Sun, Moon, planets and stars to those objects themselves, rather than to some multi-component, contorted movement of the World. Certainly, to a good approximation, the stars appear to go around us as if they are each attached to the inner surface of a huge celestial sphere, which is itself rotating above our heads from east to west on a celestial north-south polar axis.
Figure 1: The celestial sphere
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Most people who accept that the Earth is in motion believe it is a proven fact. They do not realize that not only has the motion of the Earth never been proven but by the constructs of modern physics and cosmology cannot be proven. Again, even modern cosmology does not claim to be able to prove that the Earth is in motion. In fact the very best argument for Earth’s motion is based on pure ‘modesty’ not logic, observation and experience. If anyone could prove the Earth’s motion that someone would become more famous than Einstein and Hawking and others…… They may all be fools (Psalms 14:1) but even they would not make such an ignorant claim to proof of Earth’s motions and those who do so don’t realize just how ignorant of physics they really are! Before folks go demonstrating how ignorant they are, they should consider:
1. The relationship between Mach’s principle and relativity.
2. The relationship between Gravity and Inertia, and Gravity and Acceleration (and the paradoxes that exist).
3. Relativity does not claim to prove Earth’s motions, in fact it ‘dictates’ that motion cannot be proven period.
4. Relativity proposes motion, it does not nor can it claim to disprove that the Earth is the center of the universe! (Machian Universe)
5. Only those who are ignorant of physics attempt to make arguments based on weather patterns, ballistic trajectories, geosynchronous satellites, and Foucault’s pendulums for evidence of Earth’s motions! For all those ‘geniuses’ out there, not even Einstein would claim such stupidity. Allen Daves
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Since a stationary Earth is THE foundational creation fact in the Bible, it is also the taproot of Bible credibility! Along with the creation of all biological life and mankind which followed, God's creation of an immovable, stationary Earth constitutes the basis - the taproot - for His "tree of knowledge" with its trunk (the creation of mankind) and all its limbs and branches. Satan knows that if he can kill this taproot - this foundational knowledge - with pseudo-science this would cause the whole "tree of knowledge" to wither and die in time. That's why he started there first!" Marshall Hall
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Statement:
"To beg the question: to pass over or ignore a question by assuming it to be established or settled; to assume as proven the very thing one is trying to prove. Example - to pass over or ignore the question of 'Is the Earth moving?' by assuming it to be established or settled; to assume that the Earth is moving when trying to disprove that the Earth is NOT moving."
Response(s) by Allen Daves: [ links added ]
1: "Excellent. Since there is no observation or experience that the Earth is moving without assuming that the Earth is indeed moving (begging the question) therefore the only logical course to begin from is a model of the Earth absent of any movement and then attempt to prove or demonstrate movement, if any. Of course all the experiments, without begging the question, would lead one to the conclusion that the Earth is in fact not in motion. It is only via the assumption of its movement, which was never demonstrated to begin with, that one can even begin to explain away the observations and experience that are consistent with the only logical positions to start from, namely that the Earth is without any demonstrable motion. Therefore to assume that the Earth does in fact move is to build upon a foundation of sand and to suggest that it is or must be moving because it could be in some theoretical or imaginary framework, and then to call it science, is not only a circular fallacy but is, well...... quite silly!"
2: The whole concept of larger objects going around smaller objects begs the question without knowledge of what and where the center of mass for all the objects in question (the universe) is in the first place. You must start with what you have not with what you imagine. To start with a model with no motion of the Earth is not a proof for or against Earth motion nor does it assume anything. It is the only logical position from which to begin the experimental and theoretical process necessary to ascertain any proof for or against. The model itself is not proof, it is only a premise or foundation for the discovery process. As stated many times one must logically begin with what you have not with what you do not have, and since proof for motion is the question, any model that assumes motion or interprets the data in terms of motion that is used to support or build upon a case for motion is a circular fallacy. Whereas taking observations and conducting experiments with no assumptions of motion is simply beginning with what you have. What you have does not include any argument or justification for incorporating that idea into ones interpretations of observations. To look out and see other objects in the heavens move does not tell you what is absolute motion, or what or whether or not you would and could feel/detect those motions if you were there...... and since you are not there...... think about that for a while.
3a: We woke up in a world where things appear to move around us. We had and have no sensation of movement itself. That is where this whole question of the Earth's movement must and did begin...... "everything moving around me." From that point a process of observation and experiment then proceeds to ascertain what is and what is not moving. Well, those experiments which were conducted to make that distinction did show that the Earth is indeed NOT moving. The observations of mass centered on the Earth also promote the Earth's centrality of that position as well. You cannot interpret those observations and experiments in light of a heliocentric framework because that is what those experiments and observations are all about. This is your circular fallacy...... Those who developed and conducted those experiments and observations were not assuming an Earth-centered universe, but those experiments showed just the opposite of what was expected...... (They invoked a circular fallacy when they "re-interpreted" the results, with exotic wishful theories, after performing them, to fit their assumptions about Earth's motions).
An Earth not in motion is exactly what those experiments showed, and the only thing that those observations demonstrate, without invoking circular fallacies about the Earth's movement first. It amazes me that you cannot see just how ridiculous your argument is and the fact that the only way to even begin to interpret data as consistent with the heliocentric theory is to assume that heliocentricity is preferred. There has been no experiment conducted on Earth with regard to gravity or any other theory that demonstrates anything other than what the initial observations and experiments show. They do not show things moving around you without invoking the heliocentric circular fallacy first.
3b: Heliocentricity is not logically plausible based on what is available without assuming that what you do not have is real. Your position makes no sense without assuming that heliocentricity is preferred first...... which is what everything that led up to and including today's model of heliocentricity was developed to prove in the first place. The problem is that nothing ever did prove heliocentricity without assuming that heliocentricity was the preferred conclusion to begin with, which is what it is trying to prove! Why is it so hard for you guys to grasp your arguments utter ridiculousness? Until you have observations and experience for Earth's movement your position is as plausible as aliens and abductions...... thus we should build our lives around the "fact" that they are the most reasonable and plausible explanation for all unknown phenomena!? Your arguments and examples are in fact examples, not of heliocentricity's plausibility, but rather foolishness of the highest order. Demonstrate or concede but don't use Geocentrism's evidence for heliocentricity by begging the question that heliocentricity is preferred...... because until you have that evidence for heliocentricity all the evidence supports Geocentrism without assuming anything. Starting with the very first observation ever made namely the sky is moving around you but you have no sensation of movement. All subsequent observations and experiments have been consistent with no movement of the Earth and not one has shown itself to be for heliocentricity without assuming heliocentricity is preferred first, which is the question you beg and the circular fallacy you without fail, must invoke!
4a: If you are going to appeal to observation and experiment as the solid foundation of "reasoning the issue out" then you can't appeal to theory when observation and experiment do not support that position. Theories about the aether are irrelevant. What is observed and experimentally verified, as so far as it has been conducted in every case attempted, is that relative motion can be easily distinguished from absolute motion via the effects that motion has on light in every case ever observed or performed. There is no other logical conclusion based on observation and experiment that can be logically concluded without imagining and/or assuming some other construct first, without having observational or experimental support for such a thing. You keep invoking circular fallacies and attempting to justify them via your theories and "it could" but when someone points out that it could just as well mean something else you appeal to "observations". Which is it? If you bother to think about it for any length of time you will see that in either case, theory or observation, Geocentrism is the only position that has all the possible and logically sound arguments based on what is available/observed in the past and present. Whereas heliocentricity is built on what is not observed or experienced. As for illusions, that position only makes any sense whatsoever if you have a justification for "it's an illusion" otherwise this conversation itself could just be an illusion! To say that, "it could", therefore that is the most reasonable explanation is ridiculous as well as circular. The universe does not behave disorderly unless you assume that first - that is a fundamental difference between heliocentricity and Geocentrism. When we look out we can see some smaller objects orbiting larger objects but we do not see all smaller objects orbiting the larger objects. All assertions to that fact do assume that to be the case. However, I see the sun circling me, I do not see me circling the sun without assuming that is what is really going on first. As for experiments and observations here on Earth we can distinguish between motion and non-motion regardless of how many "frames" we attempt to create via optical gyroscopes. There is no experiment that demonstrates that there is such a thing as a local reference frame that can be isolated from any other reference frame. So what experiments you are attempting to put forward and what laws of gravity and motion you keep trying to appeal to, do not exist to prove your conclusion without assuming your conclusion is true first. The whole heliocentric position is built on a house of cards and what's worse - none of them rate any higher than a Joker.
4b: The disagreements that do exist between the various Geocentric scientists have absolutely no bearing on the fact that the only experience available to man - observational or experimental - are only consistent with Geocentrism and are not consistent with heliocentricity without assuming (begging the question) that the universe is heliocentric first...... that the universe is something other than what can be demonstrated from observation and experiment, if that's the case then they should have no problem with us Jesus folks, otherwise there is no observation or experiment demonstrating heliocentricity without assuming it is true first (begging the question). The heliocentrists position is not only logically untenable but has, by its own refusal to accept observation and experiment when it conflicts with its predetermined conclusion about the Earth's motion, has in effect created a "science" that can never prove anything - "ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" of anything. If imagination is the justification for heliocentricity then it is not "science". If observation and experiment are to be the benchmarks then there is no room for the heliocentric theory except in one's imagination!
5: I have and am pointing out that GC/GS (Geocentric/Geostationary) is the only logically deduced conclusion that one can make that can be demonstrated, because you cannot reach any other conclusion without imagining what cannot or has not been observed or experienced.
Yes "theoretically" the sun or the Earth could be moving but only one of those theories/reasons (why things look they way they do) can be demonstrated as a logically deduced conclusion whereas the other cannot without invoking pure imagination first. If you go outside, look up and see something traverse from your left to your right (could be a bird or could be a plane) your first impulse is not, "Hey I am moving", without observation and experiment (O&E) that tells you that…… that would be foolish. Now, what is it that tells you that the sun is not doing the moving and orbiting without assuming and imagining that it is not first? Yes, it “could be true” that the sun is “standing still” and we are spinning, only giving the appearance of a rising sun, rather than the sun is doing exactly what it looks like it is doing, namely going around/orbiting me. But you cannot show a logically deductive path for such a conclusion even if it were true. Therefore you cannot claim that the theory that you are moving is the most plausible explanation for what you observe any more so than with a bird or a plane. What you seem to miss is that a theory and a logical deduction do not follow each other automatically. Feel free to theorize whatever you like but true science claims logical theories as the best ones - and rightly so. They just don't always employ the logical ones. As with you they sometimes prefer imagination over logical deduction. Fine, but don't call it reasonable or the most plausible; there is no logic in that reason nor can you even show it any more plausible without begging the questions, or else you can suppose there are aliens that live in my attic as the theory and reason for all my troubles…… Allen Daves.
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Unrelated:
PERSON TO PERSON MINISTRY
Soul Care in the Body of Christ
by Martin and Deidre Bobgan
Person to Person Ministry: Soul Care in the Body of Christ is about a Christ-centered approach to nurture the spiritual life of believers and to equip them to fight the good fight of faith and thereby confront problems of living through exercising faith in Christ and the Word. This book also reveals the innate sinfulness of problem-centered counseling, shows how problem-centered counseling leads Christians into feeding the flesh and quenching the Spirit, and gives reasons why Christians must abandon the problem-centered approach - HERE.
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"The 'quasars' are what led people like Hawking to notice that the Earth was in the center of the universe. Maxwell said there was absolute space, the basis of Geocentrism, and his equations prove it. Einstein said no. You argue with them. As for Einstein, if you want to believe that lengths shrink when an object moves, time changes in the process, and its mass increases, just so you can explain the anomalies of Michelson's experiment, that's your privilege, but I'd just assume to answer it by saying that mass, time and length stay the same and the Earth isn't moving, and I'm just as 'scientific' as you for saying so." Robert Sungenis
Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right Vols. 1 & 2 - "Galileo Was Wrong is a detailed and comprehensive treatment of the scientific evidence supporting Geocentrism, the academic belief that the Earth is immobile in the center of the universe. Garnering scientific information from physics, astrophysics, astronomy and other sciences, Galileo Was Wrong shows that the debate between Galileo and the Catholic Church was much more than a difference of opinion about the interpretation of Scripture. Scientific evidence available to us within the last 100 years that was not available during Galileo's confrontation shows that the Church's position on the immobility of the Earth is not only scientifically supportable, but it is the most stable model of the universe and the one which best answers all the evidence we see in the cosmos." HERE
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Sun's Path Diagram simple (below), more complex HERE - Created by Allen Daves:
NEP = North Ecliptic Pole, SEP = South Ecliptic Pole, NCP = North Celestial Pole, SCP = South Celestial Pole HC = Heliocentrism, GC = Geocentrism/Geostatic, AC = Acentric
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Seven Minute Music Break - HERE
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* "This is a reply from a sincere, though seemingly willingly blind man, that touches on many things. The point he makes about a scientific "conspiracy" is one that I have only fairly recently understood the correct answer to. Namely, money. With money, those who create it determine where and how it gets spent. By controlling governments they control the research agencies. By controlling all the main scientific journals and the research agencies, they control the universities as regards what research is conducted, what gets published and what conclusions are acceptable. In short, the thousands of scientists alluded to by your correspondent are not engaged in a "conspiracy theory" at all, they simply tow the line, draw their salary and further their careers and reputations within their bit of a paradigm that is determined by the ones pulling the financial strings. All of these scientists can be completely unaware of the corruption and Devil-inspired agenda being orchestrated way above their heads. They will see the moral destruction of society going on all around them, but very, very few will stop to think out just what is going on." Neville Jones
Sheeple against Crime Facts, Suspicions and Investigations ("Conspiracy Theories")
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“We have been taught LIES. Reality is not at all what we perceive it to be. We cannot survive any longer by hanging onto the falsehoods of the past. Reality must be discerned at all costs if we are to be a part of the future. Truth must prevail in all instances no matter who it hurts or helps if we are to continue to live upon this Earth.” from Behold A Pale Horse, by William Cooper (assassinated).
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"Star trails tell us what is going on in the universe. What we see and photograph has to be explained by the naturalists with an assumption that the Earth is rotating. This assumption necessitates the further observation-denying reality that the Earth is orbiting the sun. That assumption in turn demands that the Earth be tilted in its orbit in order to account for the seasons, etc. Assumptions are, by definition, ipso facto not “science” (scire: to know). Accepting the first assumption has several immediate effects: It negates repeated Biblical geocentrism verses and necessitates a non-Biblical explanation for observed phenomena. It elevates a mathematical model which must assume not only that what is seen is not true, but that a reversal of what is seen is true; namely that the sun is standing still and that the direction of the Moon is reversed and assigned new speeds to answer undeniable phase and eclipse phenomena (which is all answered very nicely by a stationary Earth, thank you). And on it goes until everyone agrees that the Earth is just one example of gravitationally captured flotsam going around a hum-drum star in a universe with billions of galaxies, trillions of stars, billions of other “planets”, all billions of light-years distant.
What we now KNOW—and what heliocentrists and geocentrists alike are both choosing to ignore—is that every concept in this textbook Big Bang Evolutionary Paradigm (billions of years, relativity, heliocentricity, big bang, expanding universe, and lately, parallel universes and superstrings) constitutes an alternate “creation scenario” derived from the Zohar/Kabbala holy books of the Pharisees. There is no “secular” science involved between these two models about the Origin of all that exists. Period. The Biblical Creation Model of six literal days with no evolution needed is a Religious Model, AND the Kabbala Creation Model of 15 billion years with evolution needed is a Religious Model.
The indispensable keystone of the Christ-hating, Bible-destroying Pharisee Religion’s Big Bang Evolutionary Paradigm is the heliocentricity model. That first assumption of a rotating Earth makes all the rest possible. The Copernican Revolution paved the way for the Darwinian Revolution with its subsequent rationale for the Marxian and Freudian and Einsteinian and Saganian/Gould/Wickramasinghe Revolutions. That historical progression is undeniable, and so is the fraudulent use of technology in telescopes, redshift lies, virtual reality software, etc., which has produced this Pharisee video-game universe disguised as “secular science” now in the textbooks.
So, rather than continue to split hairs over a “philosophical choice” between geocentrism and heliocentricity, evolution or no evolution, etc., why don’t we reduce the whole “Origins” argument to its inescapable, basic options, viz., the Pharisee Model of the universe, Earth, and mankind based on the Zohar/Kabbala...... or the Christian Model of the universe, Earth, and mankind based on the Bible?? As all the above are unarguable facts, so is it an admitted fact that the Biblical God Who neither required nor used any evolution whatsoever to create everything in six days cannot be the same as the Pharisee g’d who required and used 15 billion years of evolution. We now know that the Kabbala g’d of the Pharisee Religion is Satan (HERE). We know that the Bible teaches that Jesus—under the Father’s tutelage—is the Creator (Col. 1:16; Eph. 3:9; John 1:3,10; Heb. 1:2.10). Savior, yes, but Creator too, Who used no evolution. We know that the Pharisees teach that Jesus was a liar, a bastard, and is boiling in feces and semen in hell (HERE). The motivation for the incredible edifice of contra-scientific assumptions inherent in the Pharisee/Kabbalic universe resting on heliocentricity is plain enough. They had Jesus killed once. That didn’t work, so they have killed the credibility of the only Book that describes the creation we see everywhere we look. God is a jealous God who will end Satan’s “knowledge” ruling deception of the science falsely so called Evolution Idol. It is written that there is a “war” which the Lamb wins (Rev. 17:14) which unmasks and causes Babylon, Satan’s empire, to Fall (Rev. 14:8; etc.).
It is also written that Jesus uses His “called, chosen, and faithful” to win this 2-3 month “war” (Rev. 17:14). Could there be a greater honor for anyone who professes to love the Biblical God and His Son Jesus than to be one of those called, chosen, and faithful followers?? I, for one, consider that a rhetorical question. But how can it be done? What can we do? Simple: Forget the hair-splitting. It’s not a philosophic choice. It’s a religious choice. It’s The Bible or the Pharisees' books; Jehovah God and Jesus, or Satan; Eternal life or eternal death; Real observable science (knowledge, fact) or assumption based pseudo-science (false “knowledge”, deception).
Heliocentricity is the keystone and the Achilles Heel of the entire Satan-inspired Kabbalic universe of 15 billion years of evolution. It is the #1 assumption upon which the Pharisees have erected their knowledge-controlling deception. The time left for fence-sitting relevant to this demonstrable Achilles Heel of heliocentricity is summed up in Elijah’s ancient dictum: “How long halt ye between two opinions? If the LORD be God, follow Him; but if Baal, then follow him” (I Kings 18:21).
(Search titles at www.fixedearth.com for documentation on any of the subjects above.) Marshall Hall
Orbit - Path - Plane
- Attached is a snapshot from Geocentric Universe 3.0 HERE. The World is in the centre and does not move. The universe rotates around the polar axis. The "ecliptic plane" is bounded by the red circle. That red circle goes around with the universe. The Sun only ever stays somewhere on that plane. If the Sun did not move relative to the plane of the ecliptic, then its trajectory relative to each of us and its position relative to the stars would be the same each day. But the Sun has a path (technically it is this path that is the "ecliptic", which is why we refer to the "ecliptic plane" or "plane of the ecliptic") and travels slowly around that path in the opposite sense to how the universe rotates about the World. This simple fact produces great variety, seasons and the apparent helical path of the Sun. (All praise be to God for this beauty, design and consideration.) Neville Jones
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Heliocentrists Claim that the Accelerations due to Earth's Supposed Translational Orbit Around the Sun
Cannot Be Detected
Thus, all the efforts and experiments done pertaining to relative verses absolute motion...... ever heard of Sagnac, Michelson Morley and Michelson Gale et al?...... it works no matter how many frames of reference you attempt to create or take away, or bundle or imagine...... the point is there is a difference between absolute and relative motion...... The point of reference is whatever is out there that orbits wrt the Earth at 23h56min4sec...... coz that is not the rotational rate of the Earth.
All accelerations can be detected, at least any produced in any experiment or lab...... and yet the Earth’s ever changing accelerations cannot? (see also the inertial paradox and tides)...... It does no good to appeal to theories that are dependent on the very conclusions they try to show as being true...... That is not science that is called a circular fallacy, make believe and fables for educated men.
The fact you have a blindfold on and can’t see the physical perimeter of the car does not mean you can't detect the cars motion...... Don’t assume the very thing you are trying to determine one way or the other...... to say there is no point of reference is to beg the question because again all motions and accelerations in any reference frame can and are detected...... in fact the only ones that are claimed to be undetectable are the very ones used to “exemplify” the “fact” that some accelerations are undetectable and thus there is no point of reference for absolute motion!?...... Gee whiz then, the fact you can't see my imaginary friends, proves they exist but are invisible!?...... And the fact you can't see the air you breath, proves it does not exist!?...... That is not science, that is called wishful thinking. True science is Logic, Observation and Experience (LOE); not assumptions, cherry picked data and imaginations (wishful thinking)...... The notions that the Earth moves are based on the latter set of unscientific "principles" I'm afraid...... Allen Daves.
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Any change with respect to any given acceleration rate or lack thereof...... can be detected...... there is no difference between orbital and linear accelerations...... from any "rest postion" to any acceleration rate can be detected...... any change to any given acceleration rate can be detected...... this includes an acceleration that experiences deceleration or an acceleration rate that continually changes...... ie...... let's say a car is accelerating at 3 feet per second squared...... now the change from the initial "rest state" to that acceleration rate can/will have been detected...... but now let's say that the acceleration rate itelf changes from 3 feet per second squared to 5 feet per second squared...... that change too will also be detectable...... the Earth's [supposed] acceleration rate around the sun is not the same...... it is always changing...... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "RELATIVE MOTION" ONLY, except in imagination...... because all motion can be measured and detected wrt the same Reference Frame and that RF is the Earth/Sidereal RF...... however since the two choices are Earth or the background stars (sidereal) and there is no motion the Earth could have to account for the sidereal and solar time...... the motion is sidereal against the Earth...... thus the Earth is the Absolute Reference Frame and the Sidereal rotation of the heavens is the RF for measuring absolute motion - all motion is wrt the Earth but everything that is not at the Earth is also moving either with or against the sidereal rotational rate...... thus all motion must be added to or subtracted from the sidereal rotational rate...... The Earth is the absolute observational point for observing sidereal time/aether rotation and the sidereal time of the aether benchmarks all other motions within it. Allen Daves. [see also Moon Movement]
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2. Why are people allowed to say that they are “not religious” and at the same time believe in, promote and teach the Big Bang Paradigm model of the universe (which includes a rotating and orbiting Earth) derived from the Zohar/Kabbala of the Pharisee RELIGION??
3. "There is a sizeable constituency of nominal (existing or being something in name or form only) Christians who don't believe the Bible is God's Word...... except in the part where they go to heaven." Marshall Hall
4. We don’t need to know every detail about astrophysics and astronomy, and we don’t need to be an “expert” to realize that the Earth is motionless, and that the primary group lying (again) are tax-funded mainstream scientists.
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Satanic-zionists* Are Behind Fake-Universe Propaganda!
THE MOVING-EARTH LIE IS THE TAPROOT OF SATAN’S STRATEGY TO OVERTHROW GOD. "As The Adversary, whose self-seeking caused him to be cast out of heaven, Satan declared his purpose to overthrow God and take over His universal government. Listen to his boast: Isaiah 14: '...... I [Lucifer] will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north...... I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High'. This incredible claim of Satan exposes the heart of his plan to set himself up in the place of God."
The groundwork is being laid for the brainwashing/mind-control of the general public through the Criminal Mainstream Media Cartel by NASA/Barry Goldstein et al and by Hollywood/Steven Spielberg et al
and by Zionist PSY-OP agencies of "crop circle" builders and UFO Shysters like Steven Greer...... for a future Orson Welles 1938-type "War of the Worlds" FAKED/STAGED alien attack (special note: space aliens
or ETs are fictional characters only and do NOT exist except in some people's imaginations), or staged
FALSE MESSIAH advent-coming . . . where they will inaugurate the 'New Order of the Ages'/Satanic World Rule. Quote: "...... do everything you can to bring Mossiach (The Jewish Messiah)!" Rebbe Manachem Mendel Schneerson - the seventh and last spiritual leader of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement...... some Chabad Hasidim believe that he will return as the Messiah.
* EVIL, ANTI-CHRISTITIC Club/CrimeScheme/SecretSatanicCult (derived from Babylonian mystery religion) that has a diabolical plan for World Control, Ownership, Domination, Depopulation and Genocide. Their plan, which is already underway, is to eliminate 5.5 BILLION of the world's population (while at the same time lulling and deceiving people by saying world population is too high and increasing), by: 55+% taxation of fathers; an illegal, uncompetitive, offshore, and privately owned fake money/currency monopoly enforced by State violence; tricking women to avoid their best biological baby-making years which are from ages 14 to 26; mass murder expeditions("military war"), terrorism and maiming by the bought-and-paid-for puppet State; abortions by "family planning" groups; current massive multi-trillion dollar "bailout" (looting/heist) for Power Elite; manufactured pandemic diseases; manufactured famines; vaccinations and flu shots designed to sterilize or cause death; executions of dissident non-statists; and other ways.
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Explanation: If you took a picture of the Sun at the same time each day, would it remain in the same position? The answer is no, and the shape traced out by the Sun over the course of a year is called an analemma. The Sun will appear at its highest point of the analemma during summer and at its lowest during winter. Analemmas created from different Earth latitudes would appear at least slightly different, as well as analemmas created at a different time each day. The analemma pictured above was built up by Sun photographs taken from 1998 August through 1999 August from Ukraine. The foreground picture from the same location was taken during the early evening in 1999 July.
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Yearly spiral pathway of the sun as it orbitally revolves around the STATIONARY Earth daily. Niall Kilkenny
Moon's Path Diagram (simple), more complex HERE - Created by Allen Daves:
"More complex" diagrams are below, scroll way down.
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“The Moon presented a special math problem for the construction of the heliocentricity model. The only way to make the Moon fit in with the other assumptions was to reverse its direction from that of what everyone who has ever lived has seen it go. The math model couldn’t just stop the Moon like it did the Sun, that wouldn’t work. And it couldn’t let it continue to go East to West as we see it go, either at the same speed or at a different speed. The only option was to reverse its observed East to West direction and change its speed from about 64,000 miles an hour to about 2,200 miles an hour. This reversal along with the change in speed were unavoidable assumptions that needed to be adopted ("accepting something foreign to one's nature") if the model was to have a chance of mimicking reality." Vern (more HERE)
Example of mainstream science garbage: “Their findings fit in with the prevailing theory that the Moon was born when a Mars-sized body crashed into the Earth and blasted much of it’s crust into space, where it clumped together to form the Moon.” LOL!!!
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This section (bounded by green) is not meant as proof or evidence, but just as a possibility to explain Moon behavior.
Genesis 1:16 - "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day,and the lesser light to rule the night . . . "
"The conventional explanation for moonlight being simply sunlight reflected off a convex spherical surface is inadequate for describing what we see."
The Moon Generates its own Light:
The Book of Enoch - Astronomy - Moon - Chapter 78 - excerpts:
" His [the Sun's] light is sevenfold brighter than that of the Moon; but as regards size they are
both equal."...... "And Uriel showed me another law: when light is transferred to the Moon, and on which side it is transferred to her by the sun. During all the period during which the Moon is growing in her light, she is transferring it to herself when opposite to the sun during fourteen days her light is accomplished in the heaven, and when she is illumined throughout, her light is accomplished full in the heaven."...... "And by day she [the Moon] appears like the heaven, and there is nothing else in her save her light." More HERE.
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MOON:
Monthly spiral pathway of the NON-ROTATING Moon as it orbitally revolves around the Earth DAILY
(every 24h 50m 28.5s) Niall Kilkenny
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1. Moon-landing Hoax - Bill Kaysing Interview - Transcript
Audio part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5, part 6
2. Damage control for Apollo moon "landing". HERE
3. Apollo 16 - AstroNOT lifted by wires at 2:17 (2 minutes 17 seconds) HERE.
4. Photo of alleged comet, along with 7 questions: HERE
5. Bart Sibrel's Moon Movie - Documented Hoax Evidence: HERE
6. The 1969 Apollo press conference. Are they suffering stress because they are lying about
going to the Moon? HERE
7. Did Anybody Really Land on the Moon? HERE
9. The Mind Control Propaganda Concept Behind the Documentary DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - HERE
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Stars orbitally revolve around stationary Earth "nightly", i.e. once each
sidereal day (23 hours 56 minutes 4 seconds).
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"Many think it proven long ago that the World orbits the Sun. However, the results of two simple experiments, both performed in the nineteenth century, showed that it is the stars which move, and not the World." HERE
More Star Trails HERE, HERE, HERE
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The Rotating Earth - Theory, Fact or Fiction
Throughout ancient times it was obvious that the Moon went around the Earth. This is still accepted today. But in the past it was just as obvious that the Sun went around the Earth as well. This was not because men in those days lacked fantasy and forgot to imagine non-existent movements of themselves and their surroundings. It is because they did their homework and examined all the evidence before them, that they came to the understanding that the Earth was a firm, motionless sphere, neither in rotation around itself nor wandering through space around another body. More HERE.
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" . . . The Bible clearly states what has been forgotton for over 400 years."
Four minute video - 'Earth Not Moving' HERE.
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All around us we see evidence of God's magnificent power and creativity.
Created by God with no evolution needed or used:
More Photos HERE
“One of God’s characteristics is that He does things to bring glory to himself. God’s splendor, creativity and majesty are seen in every part of creation. He made everything we see in the Earth and universe and all of it testifies about his glory. He made each of us from some dirt and water, and then breathed life into us. We are fearfully and wonderfully made, and far exceed the efficiency, complexity and beauty of anything man has made.”
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Mathematics as Science
"If one considers science to be strictly about the physical world, then mathematics is not a science...... as far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality...... Many philosophers believe that mathematics is not experimentally falsifiable, and thus not a science...... mathematics cannot be reduced to logic...... most mathematical theories are, like those of physics and biology, hypothetico-deductive: pure mathematics therefore turns out to be much closer to the natural sciences whose hypotheses are conjectures...... Intuition and experimentation also play a role in the formulation of conjectures in both mathematics and the other sciences...... Many mathematicians feel that to call their area a science is to downplay the importance of its aesthetic side, and its history in the traditional seven liberal
arts...... the philosophical debate as to whether mathematics is created (as in art) or discovered (as in science)...... It is common to see universities divided into sections that include a division of Science and Mathematics, indicating that the fields are seen as being allied but that they do not coincide...... Mathematical awards are generally kept separate from their equivalents in science."
Physicists Create Phony Math to Rule Out a Non-moving Earth HERE.
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"Serpentine describes the columns and other archetectural features inside St. Peters. The only other place I’ve been where a visually engendered feeling of being surrounded by demons is so palpable as inside St. Peters is the main tourist layout at the NASA Space Center on Merritt Island at Cape Canaveral. You can feel it; you can point out things to others and they can feel it even if they aren’t very spiritual people." Marshall Hall
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"The Rotating/Orbiting Earth Model is very widely accepted but that is no real proof that it is true ('argumentum ad populum' in Latin or 'the bandwagon effect/crowd psychology' in Modern English).
"It's amazing to me that truth seekers can take an historical approach to 911, Moonshots, suppression of a Real Holocaust of more than 6 million civilian German Christians during and just after WWII, Global Warming, the phoney War on Terror, the Federal Reserve scam, the Income Tax racket, etc. and do good work uncovering evidence of what would have to be termed important deceptions with potentially wide consequeces while, at the same time, judge it to be impossible or unimportant to take an historical approach which reveals that the same culprits driving these deceptions are deceiving the entire world by controlling and manipulating the Theoretical Science Establishment."
"Science information and news used to be spoon-fed to you over the TV, radio, and newspapers, but now the internet exposes those channels as deceptive. The window of truthful Science News, which helps form the American psyche, set ideas in motion and advance industry, is TEMPORARILY open."
"Everyone interested in distinguishing Truth from Deception--scientific or otherwise--needs to understand the kind of programming that has gone into computerized telescopes and cameras to get them to send back Virtual Reality Images (not 'real' by definition) which are being used to indoctrinate the world with spurious information about the makeup, size and age of the universe."
"The Universe is not impersonal. It was not created by a random, meaningless evolutionary process. It reflects the loving personality of God, because every molecule was created by God, has a place in the plan of God, and is upheld by God."
"A Religious object is the goal; False-Science is the means of reaching it; and the means can never be considered in isolation from their purposes."
"We are not allowed to think of anything that is not The Puppet State's ('the government's') version of
events...... we are not allowed to make these facts about the universe - including the Earth, moon, sun and stars - known to the world without a fight...... 'THEY' do not want the masses to wake-up."
"Many will chafe at this Geocentrism position paper because they have so much treasure built up in the Mainstream Science Economic System they never want to see it fall, even though the Theory of Heliocentrism is idolatrous and unBiblical. It is because their god is the god of money and not the God of the Bible that they dare not call it idolatry."
"You are correct if you look upon Mainstream News and Science Media, except for sports scores and such like, as being Massive Disinformation Operations."
"Discarding Newton's seemingly innocuous inverse-square formula for gravity would have enormous consequences for the entire Earth, because with it goes the 'Big Bang' absurdity and the whole of secular cosmology ( which the idea of organic evolution requires in order to sanctify the notion that anything is possible given enough time ). With no publicly-perceived scientific credibility to bolster it anymore, the prevailing Western religion of naturalistic atheistic humanism must then likewise collapse."
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[ LATEST, Allen Daves, Marshall Hall, Q&A, Quotes, Two, Three, Foucault Pendulum, Gravity,
Moon Movement, Satellite, Relativity, Rotation, Sun's Orbit, State Scientism,
Barycenter, Translation Movement, Critics, NASA Witchcraft, Books-etc. ]
( Negative Parallax, Airy's Experiment, Restoring Forces, Radiometric Dating } by Neville Jones HERE.
( Amazing and unique to Geocentrism is Flower Pattern of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn } by Steven Jones HERE.
Electric Universe, Geobounded Universe, No Flat Earth, Mars Lie,
See also these other excellent, original and scholarly websites about Geocentrism (but each not related and completely independent from the others, and not in total agreement in all aspects or interpretations of Geocentrism or Bible doctrines and themes):
1. Marshall Hall's www.fixedearth.com (book order HERE)
2. Neville Jones, PhD and son Steven's www.realityreviewed.com (DIGITAL DOWNLOAD /cd-rom order HERE)
3. Abafte Geocentrism Website HERE
4. Robert Sungenis and Robert Bennett's "Galileo Was Wrong" (book/cd-rom order HERE)
5. Gerardus D. Bouw's www.geocentricity.com (Free PDF book HERE)
6. Niall Kilkenny's reformation website HERE
7. Malcolm Bowden at stationaryearth.org; (book order HERE )
8. Philip Stott's Geocentrism website HERE
9. Pawel Kolasa's Wiser TV, Video: Earth is Motionless - Part one HERE, Part two HERE
10. Online Geocentrism Tutorial HERE.
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Answer: Yes, it matters a great deal because proving a non-moving, non-rotating Earth to the satisfaction of the masses, would give the Bible a great degree of credibility. People would think: "Against all odds they were right, the Bible must be the Truth, the inspired, infallible Word of God." Then they would investigate the Bible and discover other truths...... like a Judgment Day to account for their behavior during their time on Earth. After physical death souls are judged by their thoughts, words and deeds and the intentions and motivations behind their thoughts words and deeds. Great rewards and severe punishments are given (a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown). If people believed this there would be little crime or war in the world. No financial fraud or reneging on business agreements, no 55% State taxation, no fractional-reserve fake money, no fake Apollo moon landing, no fake Phoenix Mars Mission, no fake Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Mission, no self-inflicted 911 False Flag ops, no dead six million plus German Christians, no dead 500,000+ Iraqi kids, no Ali Abbas with his arms blown off.
Secondly, in order for the Earth to be stationary the stars have to be able to go around nightly, so that eliminates Mainstream Science's 78 billion light-year radius* of the universe and then that destroys the 14 billion years age of the universe built upon that radius, which knocks out the time prop needed for the evolution of the universe, Earth, and mankind. Belief in human evolutionism indirectly causes "immoral" (unLawful and Criminal) behavior. When people realize their fellow man must have been created and has not evolved from bacteria or animals then, again, they would have greater respect and awe for other created humans and not bomb them or do evil to them. In fact if there are great rewards they might be more inclined to help and to do good to others.
* "It [ 78 billion light-year radius ] is just wise guy scientists extrapolating all over the place using pure assumptions to make a name for themselves. The Kabbalist Universe is the settled paradigm of 15/15 +or- for radius and light years. Skimming through this piece, it looks like the premise is wrong anyway, namely, that the mythical identifying of galaxies 14 billion light years distant and then using that to multiply by the speed of light. This says that the so called expansion factor has been at light year speed (c. 6 trillion miles in a year) constantly for 15 billion normal years. There is something wrong with this. (There was a Russian some years ago who settled on a 56 billion mile radius. But I think the Pharisees are happy with the 15/15 formula which dates at least from the 1st century Kabbalist HaKanna. A lifetime or two here doesn't affect that formula)." Marshall Hall
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Romans Chapter 1 verses 18-22
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteoousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the World are clearly seen, being understood by THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE [ Earth, moon, sun, stars ], even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools......"
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"Why are so many scientists lying to us? They lie about 911, they lie about the Earth's supposed rotation, they lie about Global Warming and they lie about the Apollo Moon landing. A list of what they're HONEST about would be shorter!...... Scientists are just ordinary, fallible humans with extra "approved" schooling; some seem to act just like monkeys."
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The vested interest that intellectuals have in the success of government is, quite frankly, employment and status. The demands of people in the real world bid up the wages of plumbers, doctors, barbers, carpenters, and the like, but you will never see “intellectuals” listed in the Yellow Pages. There simply is not a great free-market demand for their services.
But as far as government and intellectuals are concerned, theirs is a value-for-value alliance. Government offers the intellectual employment, security and status. And what, in turn, is the chief task of the intellectual? In the simplest of terms, it is to make the masses love their servitude. From government’s standpoint, it would be ideal if intellectuals did such a good job at their task that other measures would be unnecessary. Said Aldous Huxley, in his foreward to Brave New World:
'A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers.'
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"One does not stand a chance in a Western scientific institute unless one tows the party line. Even really great scientists and engineers have been thrown out when they start thinking for themselves e.g. the late Professor Eric Laithwaite, the greatest electrical engineer of the 20th century, in my opinion, thrown out of Imperial College, London, when he performed 'badly' at a Royal Society lecture - see HERE. Funding just dries up and one becomes 'an embarrassment' to the institute. Thus is the Western educational establishment well stitched up......." Neville Jones
"The heliocentric idea was known of in at least the third century B.C., but was rightly dismissed as being insane. The publication of a multi-volume book, in 1543, by a Sun-worshipping astrologer who knew nothing about physics, then sowed the seed of the present-day misconception that we are taught as being 'fact'. One after another, physicists placed meat on Kopernik's bare bones, with many contorted and ad hoc components
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Fake "Layered Deposits" Image supposedly from Mars:
"As expected, The Big Bang Evolution Paradigm Express has gone to afterburners after several years of planting escalating Gee Whiz expectations in the media. If ever there was a computer-generated montage of "images", these Mars "pictures" HERE take the cake. The Pharisees are making their final moves to establish their alternative Kabbalist Universe of 15 billion years of evolutionism and put God out of the creation business." Marshall Hall
"I think he is calling them "hoax" piccies because it's fairly obvious that this is what they are. At first glance there is a definite sense of unreality about them, especially numbers one and three, as if they have come off the virtual reality production line." Neville Jones
What is Really Happening?
It is the function of mainstream science media, the state-controlled school system and intelligence agencies under orders from the bankers (Federal Reserve) to deceive the people about the real goals of space “exploration”. The American people are being propagandized to believe in lofty endeavors such as “finding our cosmic roots” through outer-space exploration, thereby allowing NASA, et al to spend massive amounts of taxpayers money, when the real objective is the covert militarization of inner-space.
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Conspiracy Theory?
For most of history Geocentrism (stationary Earth) was the prevailing mainstream cosmological worldview, and ALWAYS WAS AND STILL IS the correct worldview. The phrase "conspiracy theory" is used dismissively to label claims like the Earth is not rotating and the Sun orbits the Earth -- that are alleged by believers in the theory of heliocentrism to be untrue, outlandish, irrational or otherwise -- as unworthy to be considered as real science or credible in spite of good reasoning based on logic, observation and experiment.
* "Data evaluation must be based on LOE (logic, observation and experiment)...... not mere assertions, assumptions and blind faith in Einstein's "beautiful equations"...... just because it may be "beautiful" does not mean it exists external of someone's imagination...... (any more than the "universe" of a Pixar or Disney animated film does, they conform to the mathematics of their universe too!)" Allen Daves
* Ignorant folk think that such minority opinions as Geocentrism are the "conspiracy theories"...... There is a real conspiracy for sure but the sad thing is it is mostly a "conspiracy of willful and apathetic ignorance" (for numerous reasons). The very people who would call Geocentrists "quack conspiracy theorists" are either themselves completely ignorant of even modern cosmological axioms and principles of gravitation and mechanics or they are just "playing stupid", hoping that no one will notice or call their bluff. Most of those who pretend to be intelligent and/or knowlegeable about physics are just plain stupid, and a few are just ignorant but once you show them, if they are honest and will continue the dialogue, they say something to the effect of, "Wow! I even got a PhD in physics X number of years ago and even taught it for X number of years...... I did not think about it that way...... but you can't ignore those facts". You can go to any mental hospital and the population of wackos and inmates will outnumber the doctors and the sane folk, and moreover call them crazies. What’s even more hilarious is the fact that even folk like Steven Hawking and a few intellectually honest physicists and cosmologists who would read what we are saying and are capable of understanding it, know that what we have been saying is absolutely true (it is a philosophical not a logic and observational choice). Not only do they admit that but even "snicker" about it to each other...... LOL...... but they won't dare to address that too openly with the dumb, ignorant masses...... best not to confuse the common folk with unnecessary information and facts. Even more sad are all the others out there who don’t have a clue what I’m saying here and shake their heads thinking they know something about physics that tells them that the Earth moves. If only they studied the text books and peer reviewed papers a little closer, they would realize just how absolutely ignorant with a capital "I" that argument really is. Allen Daves
* Most of the scientists who resist Geocentrism certainly could be (and are, I believe) simply duped by unceasing and increasingly sophisticated indoctrination to the point that they are basically "programmed" to believe the heliocentricity world view. This doesn't mean that 80% of them won't resist like hell when God forces the truth on them and the world, but that is another story. It's the 20% or whatever that God can use and we can possibly help turn around. Marshall Hall
*The "Conspiracies are Real" Speech that Got JFK Killed HERE.
The hypocrites of the puppet State even use the word Conspiracy in their own rule book, for example HERE.
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"I firmly believe that the American and Russian space program secrets are twofold, one is that the Earth is definitely stationary and the other is space travel is bogus and is impossible beyond the Van Allen radiation belts...... nothing of human origin has passed that gate, so the prince of all lies is forced to create an entire imaginary universe and solar system based solely on images from land-based astronomical observatories! After all, we must accept that the "prince of the power of the air" has dominion here for a small time? Therefore I bow to every image coming from NASA as being "suspect" in its truthfulness."...... "Lots of people think Area 51 was created for the development of the U-2 [ military spy plane ] and stuff like the SR-71 [ sometimes called the "Blackbird" ], but it was really created to produce a fake universe and world for the USGS [ United States Geological Survey ] and mapping facilities all over the world." ...... "Every image it has (the Hubble Space Telescope) sent back has been nothing but rubbish, faked and spouting the futile doctrine of a universe in chaos...... which we know not to be the case!"
"To make interstellar travel believable NASA was created. The Apollo Space Program foisted the idea that man could travel to, and walk upon, the moon. Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commissions Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in a secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney Studios within which was a huge scale mock-up of the moon. No man has ever ascended higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth's surface. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon. The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen Belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, temperature control, and many other problems connected with space travel prevent living organisms leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology. Any intelligent high school student with a basic physics book can prove NASA faked the Apollo moon landings. If you doubt this please explain how the astronauts walked upon the moons surface enclosed in a space suit in full sunlight absorbing a minimum of 265 degrees of heat surrounded by a vacuum. NASA tells us the moon has no atmosphere and that the astronauts were surrounded by the vacuum of space." more HERE"The first and most primary problem for a Christian in the 'alien messages', is that the 'Extraterrestrials' have carefully but certainly usurped the role of God. They appear as transcendent beings that are superior to man. They know what we don't know, see what we don't see, and can solve what we can't solve. Second, they usurp
the role of God as Creator. God is not our Father, the 'Extraterrestrials' are. Third, if they are our creators, then we must owe something to them. How about our souls, our hearts, and our allegiance? Fourth, when the 'alien messages' are all put together, we find that their combined effect is the creation of a new religion. Themes of transcendence, supernatural entities, spiritual evolution, and our 'seeded' origins all combine to form a new, religious outlook on life." Patty Tunnicliffe
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Four Minute Music Break: HERE
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Statement: "It's just a bunch of Christian Propaganda"; "I'm not religious, I'm an atheist, I just believe in science".
Answer: EVERYONE has a God/god/g'd;
• themselves (humanism),
• impersonal evolutionary forces (scientism),
• The State,
• Satan,
• Tony Robbins/Oprah
or
• The Creator God of the Christian Holy Bible.
EVERYONE is religious - a religion is a set of beliefs about
• morals
• the origin of the universe.
The RELIGIONS of Naturalistic Atheistic Humanism, Organic Evolutionism, Satanism, Guruism, and ESPECIALLY Statism ("Governmentism") have caused more deaths than anything else. True unhijacked-by-the-state Bible Christianity has not caused a single war death - EVER!
Christian Truths counteract PROPAGANDA (like heliocentricity) from those latter six RELIGIONS, among others, that many people (who incorrectly say they are not religious) now follow.
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Theoretical Science EXPOSED as RELIGIOUS and NOT Secular!!
The g'd of theoretical science is the Pharisee Religion's g'd. Anyone can read of each and every concept that makes up an evolution-based "creation scenario" that has become today's textbook cosmology and find them in ancient Rabbinic writings in the Zohar/Kabbala. It's a religion; it has a g'd. There is nothing "secular" about the "theoretical science" the world believes is really secular with no religious affiliation. HERE - (scroll down to section 4).
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"How was it possible for ancient and medieval Kabbalah rabbis to inscribe the five premises in question in their holy book (long before Copernicus formulated his heliocentricity hypothesis) and for those premises to be the exact same conclusions agreed to by modern cosmologists? The astounding coincidence of the same five cosmology premises being formulated by medieval Kabbalah rabbis and then later by modern physicists is indeed puzzling." Thomas E. Cobb
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Fake Jap Moon Photo:
It's the curvature relative to the feature sizes in the Japanese photo and then compared with the larger curvature and lesser detail in the NASA photo. Regarding the high definition of the Japanese photo, the NASA photo was supposed to have been taken on film - a very much higher resolution because of the emulsion grain size. The two moons shown cannot possibly be the same moon with or without stars...... The craters appear to be too big compared to the horizon curvature. Jack Lewis
Video - Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) - Lunar Exploration Spacecraft (SELENE KAGUYA) "In Operation". Very Suspicious, no stars again HERE. Update April 21, 2009 - this video was removed. A different video is HERE.
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"AiG and ICR (Answers in Genesis, and Institute for Creation Research) are world leaders in upholding heliocentricity and a universe that is billions of light-years thick. They claim to be Bible literalists and chastise evolutionists for not accepting the creation Scriptures...... while completely reversing Biblical geocentrism Scriptures and pushing heliocentricity. They are Major hypocrites and stonewallers of any movement amongst creationists and other Bible believers and truth seekers outside of churches." Marshall Hall
“Yes, I agree with this. Water cycle – literal; geocentric motion – figurative; yet both are stated right next to one another. “Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. Ecclesiastes 1:6 The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. Ecclesiastes 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. Neville Jones
"People reject AiG’s and ICR’s Biblical anti-Evolution stance for the same reason that these two “Creationist” organizations reject the Bible’s anti-Heliocentrism stance.”
Here are three reasons why AiG and ICR will never change:
1. "Leaders = Accomplices in the System . . . everyone in a position of influence has a stake in the Rothschilds' frauds [ which includes heliocentricity ] based on immoral taxation and phony money. Organized Satanic Zionists are the most prominent stakeholders but it includes every government, religion, corporation or organization of significance."
2. “One reason Satanic Zionists have been so successful is that they dominate and control the major organizations of their opposition.”
3. In an infamous letter to New York agents in 1863, Rothschild banker John Sherman wrote: "The few who can understand the system [ includes the heliocentric deception ] will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system [ and heliocentricity ], will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system [ and heliocentricity ] is inimical to their interests."
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Three minute Music break HERE (not an endorsement of The State)
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“I want to thank all the scholarly and responsible and ordinary people who speak so clearly and with such compassion on Bible Geocentrism and for the plight of all the meek, and the knowledge of the True Creator. I hope that God in his mercy will guide these people's steps on their pathway to do his beneficent will, in the spirit of true humility, love and spiritual kinship. We will all be forced to choose eventually, and in this we may prove we are either honoring the truth, or not. Maybe all we have to do in this world is walk the extra mile when we are compelled, and in gratitude to Christ Jeshua we must each choose to intentionally walk it . And when our days are done we will be eternally grateful we walked just one extra mile in his honor. Because when he guides our steps, they don't have to end in vain.” Adapted from RJN
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At all times and places, I, commonly known as Bernard of the Brauer family, have been, am and will be as our Creator God made me: An actual man, made in God's image and endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable Rights. Unless otherwise expressly and without duress and voluntarily agreed upon by me in writing over my actual hand-written signature: I exercise my actual rights of religious, political and scientific freedom of choice to declare that the venue of all of my conduct, speech, writings, agreements, residence and domicile is: without The State and actually on the soil and surface of the entire Earth; that all of my acts take place in a Year of our Lord; that I act at arm's length and without prejudice to my capacity as a sovereign by the grace of God; that I do not consent to act as, or as part of, any "double personality," "double capacity," and/or "double character"; that my duty of obedience is only to that human being(s) authority that exists under the Commands stated by Creator God as per Romans 13:1-8 and is consistent with all 66 Books of the Christian Holy Bible; that I have not knowingly and voluntarily consented to be subject by virtue of mere statute, rule, regulation, emergency, or alleged moral obligation to the authority of any "corporation" or implied "charitable trust" that is in violation of Creator God's Law; that my purposes are at all times "righteous, Christian and opposing Satanic evil" first and dedicated to restoring understanding and respect for the spiritual, political and scientific principles which provide the foundation for the form of government under Creator God.
Academic degree – S.E.M. (Hons.)
That means...... Self-Educated Man, Honors : ~ )