7/12 & 13/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review  

This is my review of bootcamp with practical pickup. Boston July 12 ,13
 
I started in the game in Jan 2008 and since I got a FB susan saradon look alike.
I got lazy and stopped going out cause to deal with waking up early for school after sargin' was an issue so I put it on hold for awhile.

I went out with a friend who harshly critized my game and told me  I wasnt too invested on getting better and I was slacking off, he was a complete newbie btw watching learning off dvd's and what not.LoL
 
So I decide to go back to working on this skill set and practice ,I hated myself for being so negligent.
 
I went into daygame, honestly at first I was scared of daygame cause I didnt know what to say to beautiful women in the day plus my personality in night game is different so I went out and experiemented and practice for 3 weeks  4times a week 8-10 appraoches, I had a better understanding but still needed to get better results and feedback.
 
I had gone to Boston to do a seminar with Sinn which helped me alot of insight on of what I needed in pulling the trigger and closing which was an eye opener and met ElTopo (cool dude).

I saw my friend "nothern nights" ( He posted a review)

Anyways,  I met  the guys at practical pickup , I didnt know them before and they seem chill guys.

 After that I looked into reading at each of their Blogs and I realized how fuckin' good they are at night and day.
 
I sensed that I was going to see these guys and I had found awesome mentors. So I signed up immediately.

 
First Day seminar  was a mindblowin experience!

The concepts  were broken down to be easily understood (even if you are a newbie) and  I like how didactic they were in making sure the student got to the picture.
I know how to teach cause I intereact in my school with teaching students in my field of work and know when I see someone that knows how to explain and transfer that information to the student.
 
ALL Excersizes, itself  was mindfuck ! totally awesome and as  I practiced there infront of the instructors and they would correct me which was a total personalized feeling of actually stealth trainning.WoW! and started to improve right away.
 
When Entropy  was explaining  Inner game, that was when I started to see how these guys are as person, not only know how to GAME  and definately know how to teach  but care about the student understands it before moving along next phase. This guy is example that a PUA is an intelligent individual.
 
Saffron, I read his stuff and I bombarded him with questions.  Seeing him and his ability to analyze situations and students,
explain his portion of seminar ,I can say He is a Master !
I liked this guy and identify myself with him cause I dont BS and came in this bootcamp with my balls  to go out and do it .
He wants the student to come out of their comfort zone and help student make changes thoughout the program.
 
I found that was the most effective way for me to learn and try out in field.
 
Infield night game: I felt I was the shit being with Saffron and Entropy as my instructors in the venue , venue selection was pefect for sargin' alot of women constantly coming in' out. No excuse for not opening.

 I opened several sets got feedback, they winged me,I made dumb mistakes and called me on them too since they told me and was too late to react. But the highlight of the night for me  was then as I was about to leave ,I ran into a cuttest girl,
the cuttest drunk girl ever  !!!    she thought I look like a WWE wrestler and told me I was hot,
She was so excited so picked her up and carried her, slapped her ass and made out with her. Everybody  from the bootcamp laughed at this !

knew I could have closed her but that wasn't my purpose there in that time ,as that itself is  a sticking point.
 
I was getting feedback on my game from the guys at debrief.
 
I felt it was important since nightgame I havent been going out and was since march did nightgame.
I saw my mistakes and learned alot. I opened several sets and were attracted  then I didnt re-enter when entrpoy told me so  and then I saw some chode making out with one of the girls that was totally into me, I learned buying temperature was transfereable the hard way  , vivid example in front of  my eyes that night in Boston, big mistake for me easy pickens for chodes.
 
I said that could have been me, they agreed but I got more out of  my mistakes and feedback to work on and improve.
 
NEXTDAY:
Daygame: As I mentioned previously  I was practicing daygame for 3 weeks before bootcamp , but Doc holliday being the  expert master at DAYGAME . Gave me awesome feedback and structured DAYGAME  better and more effective manner  for me.
 
His Daygame concepts are advanced and definately worth checking out!
 
So we went infield for daygame and I was adapting  the concept but last night's drive and my sexual  aggresiveness
 to close kept holding me back in the day and
I would come too strong and aggresive, I saw all instructors and they saw me infield so response and feedback from them was constant to keep momentum  to improve and incoprporate  in my game as I was infield practicing.

 Then we went to get our fashion advice for what would wear and improve in our style. This was very important for me since Im a doctor, Im a ballsy, laid back cool guy but I didnt want my style to be too try hard, this was also eye opening for me to get them to give their advice and pick out clothing that would help me look my best as well and very helpful to the other guys there.
 
After wards we went back to seminar to review closing and End game.

They also shared their honest personal life experiences and gave awesome advice on handling situations that may occur.
 
I was mostly impresed by the honesty of the instructors and there feedback, for the guys reading,
 There isnt any BS here man.
 
This program is NOT about making you feel good about yourself if you are making mistakes.
 
 if you are totally fuckin up , they will tell you  "hey, your fuckin up , let do this ...."  and they would help guide you where you need to be.
 
For me it was about making changes that needed to happen for me to improve this skill set !
 
It inspired me to want to get better and get out and practice , reading their Blogs and now being able to take a bootcamp with them ,trust me its more than worth it! 

-DreamerBoy

7/12 & 13/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review

Previously, in the world of women and pick up, I was alone and lost in the wilderness. I decided to take a bootcamp to straighten myself out; I did some research. I wanted to the bootcamp to be in Boston, and for my wallet to not be gasping for air the weekend after.  Practical Pickup was the ideal situation for me: it had a low student to instructor ratio, a matching and very palatable price. I still feel like I paid too little for the indepth teaching and feedback I received.  All three of the instructors had obvious credibility and observable skills. At the end of the weekend I was exhausted - I had been sent back into the wilderness with GPS, food and a XM radio for fun for a night and day.  After taking a bootcamp with Practical Pickup, I now have the skills for survival and more. I would recommend this experience to anyone. 

-XW

4/12 & 13/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review 

 This was my first ever bootcamp and I had no idea what to expect!

Here’s my approach to finding the right instructor.  If you’ve ever mastered an area of your life (basketball, guitar, painting, etc.) you can probably understand where I’m coming from.  Also if you just visualize back on your K-12 teachers, I bet you’ll be able to relate too.

Having practiced tae kwon do for over 14 years and developed mastery in the art, I’ve trained with different instructors in my time.  Here are the 4 categories of instructors that I’ve come across (I’d draw a box if I could):

1.  dedicated to students, and has achieved mastery, teaching skill
2.  dedicated to students, but lacks mastery, teaching skill

3. not dedicated to students, yet has achieved mastery, teaching skill
4. not dedicated to students, and lacks mastery, teaching skill

Qualities I look for in an Instructor:
-Dedication to his students
-Ability to tailor exercises to each individual student’s need

All the Practical Pick Up instructors fit the 1st category of instructor and they had what I was looking for.


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Now for the practical stuff… (gotta love puns ha)

Without getting too much into details, the 3 main topics covered are:

Inner Game
Night Game
Day Game
(Bonus: Fashion Consultation)

For a more detailed description go here:
http://www.practicalpickup.com/bootcamps.html

Having read many books & watched a couple DVD programs, the theory sessions during the day were helpful.  However, I looked forward most to putting these into action.

Here are the strengths of the program:

- 3 instructors to 4 students

This meant that we got a lot of personal time and one-on-one coaching.  I’d often go into set while an instructor watched and then gave me feedback afterwards.  Besides, how is someone supposed to teach if they can’t see what you’re doing right?

Also each instructor has a very different style & approach they bring to the topic of pick up.  To put in a sports analogy it’s sort of like having a strength & conditioning coach, a nutrition coach, and a technique coach.  When you mesh all 3 together, you get a very complete package.

- “Going out with these guys is like working out with Arnold Schwarzenegger”
  
These guys are going to push you to succeed because they care about you.  This quote actually came up in conversation between myself and some of the other students.  At the end of the weekend, I was dead exhausted; but I never would’ve pushed myself in set the way I did if they weren’t there.  I better myself by being around guys who are more talented than me.  These guys are it.  I learned simply from observing and being around these guys.

- Bottom line: the advice is practical, their approach is practical.

I’m glad we didn’t sit in a room for 5 hours each day and listen to NLP/hypnosis exercises.  The BEST part of this camp was going out with these guys and approaching.  The only way to get better is to go out now and start “doing” and that’s what these guys are all about.

-Cafepuck

Second Review

You may be wondering why I’m writing a 2nd review.  Truthfully, a month ago I didn’t think I’d be either.  I thought I’d write just one for you all to read and that’d be it.

Bootcamps – The Magic Pill
Ok, so before my bootcamp I “logically” knew that I wasn’t going to get super good overnight.  It’s common sense right?  Mastery takes effort, time, & dedication.  Yet…still some little part of me deep down inside, wished that in 1 night -- these guys could just somehow transform me into a superstar.  Damn, that’s not the way it works.

I’m writing a 2nd review b/c at the time I wrote the 1st one, I didn’t realize the full impact of how the my bootcamp experience would come to affect my growth.

Your Personal Learning Style
I’ve spent the last 6 months intensely soul searching.

In more tangible terms, I’ve been developing my own owner’s manual: finding what makes me tick, how I learn most efficiently, what types of feedback works for me, etc.  For any guy looking to take a bootcamp I’d recommend that you have a firm grasp of how you learn.  Otherwise, it may just seem like you’re paying $$$ just to go in circles through the motions of sarging – and you can do this any old Fri or Sat night.

I’ve sought to answer the question: “How do I learn best?”

Me personally, I learn best through repetition.  Some guys can understand and perform stuff the 1st time around.  Not me, and it’s always been like that for as long as I remember.  I literally have to do stuff 1,000 times over and over before it finally becomes auto-pilot.

Honestly – I don’t want to have to take another bootcamp.  Do you?
Do I want to keep sucking with women?  Hell no!
I want success with women.

Back to the Review…

It’s a funny thing, most of my learning has come after the Practical Pickup bootcamp.  What the bootcamp did for me was plant seeds of “how things can be.”  While I was observing the instructors, I was picking up frames of mind and body language.  I saw what it meant to plow.  (Admittedly before the bootcamp I used to eject wuss-bag style way too often, lol).

It’s now 4 weeks later that I’m beginning to recognize my current small successes are not some magic or miracle.  Seeds of success were planted 4 weeks ago.  Thank you Doc, Entropy, and Saffron.  You guys rock.

Again I ask myself – why did success have to come 4 weeks later?  wtf.
This is frustrating.  I wanted my magic pill! haha.

It goes back to my personal owner’s manual.  Personally, I learn best by repetition.  I’ve re-created the “bootcamp” experience every night I’ve sarged since then.   (3 nights/week x 6 approaches x 4 weeks = 72 approaches at least).  I had my first same night pull around approach 60ish.

Any geeks in here remember Star Wars?  Haha.
(Man I LOVE that movie!)  

I literally remember these guys’ advice coming to me in field like the voice of Obi Wan.  “Plow Luke plow, number close.”  Seriously.  Much like the main character, I didn’t immediately realize the full value of my training (aka the bootcamp) until I was being tested in-field.  And shit man…the field is unforgiving.  The HB10 "dark side" lightning shit tests especially hurt.  Ah!  Ouch.  haha.

Anyway, so there’s my 2nd review.  I hope that gives you guys a more personal taste of how the Practical Pickup Bootcamp has affected my learning.
I look forward to seeing you guys out in-field.  That’s where the learning is done!

Thanks again to my instructors Doc, Entropy, and Saffron. 

-CafePuck

4/12 & 13/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review 

Cafepuck’s description is right on.

I’m new to the community after finishing The Game a few weeks ago. I definitely recommend this bootcamp to someone like me……a n3wb. I’m a cheap student so it would have to be good in order for me to recommend it.

There is a shitload of material to digest although it makes PRACTICAL sense so it isn’t bad. I have been thinking about everything these dudes said since Sunday and it all makes sense. My week points were pointed out and it was tough to listen to but in the end these guys want to make you better in the field and will if you listen AND DO AS THEY SAY!!

Doc, Entropy and Saffron all have really different styles which is helpful to understand that there isn’t just one PU model that you have to follow in order to be successful with women. Congruency is key. I think I literally approached every kind of woman out there including a middle eastern mother of two who had a sister in California and was shopping with her husband Thanks Saffron, next time I'll ask if she needs a baby sitter for her kids.

I don’t recommend the bootcamp if you are unwilling to approach or unwilling to have what you’re doing wrong pointed out. I appreciated the honesty and see how much work I have ahead of me, however I’m also really excited because of the results I saw in the field. I just hope to be able to replicate them and improve my inner game (check out practical pickups latest podcast). I have never really cold approached before and that night and next day I think I got 8 or 9 numbers and a make-out at the last club. By the end of the last day I was exhausted; puck said it, these guys make you work. What was awesome about the night is that I opened the sets. These guys didn't come in and warm them up for me; I came in with my opener and worked it from there. I got demmo sets when I was lost and needed some guidance, and got some experience (what not to do) winging.

On a lighter note, the bootcamp was a ton of fun. One of the reasons these guys can PU chicks is because they are fun to be around. Practicing the pick up lines on the dudes was hilarious and there were plenty of “that’s what she said” jokes. I think Entropy's reactions to my PU lines were right on. When I said something weird he had the exact same reaction girls had at the club haha. For example, saying "hey I've been watching you from across the room and I had to come over and say hi" isn't a good PU line as I found out from entropy and some 3 set. I got the exact same reaction from Entropy as I got from the girls; No doubt he's got field experience. Getting blown out in sets at the club weren’t painful because we could laugh about it and then have what we did wrong broken down and could make adjustments.

During day game walking around with DOC was the bomb diggs. I opened a couple of sets just for fun "Hey you look wicked fuckin hawt! Can I getcha numba!?" But in the serious sets I got some great advice. I was like a dear in the headlights with a few interactions but just stayed in set until I either number closed or the girl walked away/told me to leave/had a husband/boyfriend. After each set DH told me how to improve my body language, tone, and wording and made it make sense.

On the second day we went to Saks and Mr. AWESOME critiqued our fashion and gave us advice. The advice was over my head since I know nothing about fashion, but it was AWESOME to see how making a few small changes can really improve your attractiveness ::::Sorry dude, I couldn’t resist::::::

Anyway, hope that rambling review was helpful.
Booyakasha and big ups, peace

- George

4/12 & 13/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review 

Like the others in my group, I never attended a bootcamp before. Since joining the community in October of last year, I have been soaking up as much information as my head could possibly hold -- but maybe it was too much. I've found that trying to take too much information from too many sources can actually set you further back from where you started and make you crave even more conflicting information as a result.

And, although I've had early success with my sarges since joining the community and had the opportunity to get to know so many great guys here, I knew I needed some sort of professional help with my game. I was willing to open any set that walked right from the start, but if I can't consistently hook them into intriguing conversations then none of this is really doing myself any good. I had the will, which Entropy tells me is 95% of the problem with most new students, but I needed someone to show me the way -- I needed something practical.

However, it was a bit of a struggle for myself on first arriving since I was a bit hung over and upset from an argument I had the night before with my non-community friends.

As we enter our seminar room, we start off with introductions of both the instructors (Entropy, Saffron, and Doc Holiday) and then the students.

Entropy begins with his segment on Inner Game. This guy is fucking solid inside-out. Fifteen minutes into the lesson, he basically broke down every mental issue I had into a science. The fact that I was able to understand what I was feeling was already making me feel better. He showed us that true Inner Game doesn't come from the validation others give us, it comes from your own self-validation from within. Furthermore, he explained how getting into "state," while it may give you a nice initial boost early on in your sarge might be nice, it generally isn't something you can sustain throughout the entire night. Inner Game and being in the moment comes from repetition and practice -- you can't just be in "state" by thinking you're the party because it's difficult to convince yourself into fully believing such an abstract concept like that. He capped off his segment with exercises and some great books for us to further expand on improving our Inner Game.

Next comes Saffron, who probably overcomes every stereotype you could possibly place on someone. His talk was centered on body language, tonality and volume of voice, and night game. We did a few body language and voice exercises that were critiqued by the instructors, which allowed us to see and make note of what we need to improve on. He showed us how we can actually move through thick crowds by slowing our pace and using our shoulders in a confident way. We studied the pictures of some iconic pop-culture figures for which we used to model our own stances and body language.

The last discussion of the day, was Doc Holiday's Day Game segment, in which we learned important concepts such as Grounding and Comfort, so as to not creep out your target. Doc is probably a master at building Comfort. His philosophies and routines on the subject allowed us to see the importance in it, especially when in isolation.

A couple hours after the discussions were over, my fellow students and I grab dinner then meet up with Entropy and Saffron at the first venue of the night. I was able to get us all in for free and cut the line because I knew the manager of the place (go me).

The sets were ridiculously abundant thanks to a few bachelorette parties and the message from the instructors was clear: "No one hear is too good to not open a set. Open everything."

For me, my instruction was a bit different since I don't have trouble opening. I was going for quality sets as opposed to quantity, meaning I was to get comfortable with staying in set longer.

I opened the first couple of sets with one of Saffron's, "You are too fucking adorable" opener. The sets, although receptive, later told Entropy I could've just gone in with something much simpler than that. He pulled me aside and explained to me that the opener works well for Saffron because of his (excuse me for this, Saffron) size. He's a short guy with high energy and the opener alone is enough for him to generate attraction because it makes him look so ballsy.

My new opener was simple and effective: "Hey, guys, what's up? I'm Chameleon." The sets hooked much easier with this and allowed me to transition into attraction more efficiently.

Five hours and who knows how many sets later, I was spent and it was time to go home... more than satisfied. The fact that I now have a solid foundation for outer game to work from, puts me at ease since I now know that I can pinpoint my mistakes and make note of them so much easier. Since I worked with Entropy more for the majority of the night, he was also able to point out two sticking points I never knew I had and can work on plowing through now. Just having him there as a pair of eyes worked wonders for me over the course of the night.

The next day was Doc's in field Day Game GSF. The opener he told us to use was simple, genuine and effective.

My first set actually went really well with a lot of IOI's, until...

ME: "So, what do you do when you're not here?"
HB: "Usually hang out with my husband, who's right behind you."

HAHA! I politely eject and Saffron pulls me aside, telling me I did everything right and to keep plowing through. I was actually impressed at how easily she hooked when her husband was right there for most of the time. (They were a young couple.)

There weren't a lot of sets, but I managed to # close two, one of which was ecstatic I came over and talked to her in the middle of H&M using Doc's opener.

We get back and finish off the bootcamp with Doc's Day 2's and phone game, which gave me a lot of perspective and ideas that were, well... practical. We debriefed afterwards and I come home feeling exhausted, but satisfied in how I spent my money.

The next day at work on set was unbelievable. I was on such a high from the bootcamp that people from both the cast and crew took notice of me when I didn't even think it was possible before. They were all going out of their way to say hi to me. I cocky/funny and negged the shit out of a couple of actresses and the manager of the bar we were shooting at (the one who let us into the first venue for free), and basically had all three of them kinoing and batting the bedroom eyes at me.

My only regret was not #closing them, which I know I could've easily done, and the reason was because I miscalculated the logistics of it all. I know the mistake I made and it won't happen again.

So, on the whole, the bootcamp was an awesome experience. I now know I have a solid foundation to work from for my outer game and am practicing the exercises and reading the books suggested for Inner Game as well in order to continue on with my journey to becoming a practical pickup artist. 

-Chamelon

4/12 & 13/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review 

I was in attendant during those weekend with him. My fellow mates can tell you a better description of the bootcamp better then me and I would just repeating what they say. If you want me to elaborate what was taught, PM me. Recalling the whole event was a very interesting experience. I took the Practical Pickup because I need a jolt in my game. Almost all the stuff I did in the past couple of monthes has been mediocrity.

I don't know how much a newbie am I. I want someone who can give me an honest feedback and pinpoint what I can improve in field. I realize I got more than I bargain for...The honest feedback of me was tough, but it is what it is and I'm going to work on it. The Practical Pickup Bootcamp definitly doesn't teach you gimmicks on getting phone numbers like a sport. It just teach you practical social skill that you can implement on your daily lives. It was interesting to listen to there school of thoughts.

What I learned over the weekend was creating attraction, builting good solid attraction and comfort stacking on my conversation. All the instructor gave us a lot of attention and was very helpful when needed. They're not much a laid back instructor, they make you work!

Saffron:
He was my instructor on GSF at the Pru. I know how fluid he was on his day game approaches. I was looking forward to have him as my instructor. He push me into a lot sets. A lot of the set I've seen I wouldn't approach if I was by myself, or with my friends. I was out of my comfort zone, but he push me into set when I didn't want to, but at the end of the day I'm glad I did it. He showed us how to walk up to my target to be more Alpha and what not to do. He did the seminar portion of the bootcamp. Explaining body language, SNL, AMOG, Vocal Projection. It was helpful when we did the role playing aspect.

Doc Holiday:
I met him at my first meeting back in January. I was looking forward to see what he got to offer. He gave some great ideas on my conversation and help built comfort stack for me to talk about. His presentation was detail and very knowledgeable on his stuff. I thought he's going to repeat some of the same stuff he made on the lairs meeting, but it was totally diffrent. His phone game and dating ideas are solid.

Entropy:
I didn't really vibe with him much at the lairs meeting, but I remember I say, "excuse me" to him  one time when we all went to the restaurant after the meeting, but I finally realize he was a great guy. He gave a good presentation on inner game. During the night game aspect, he was standing next to some of my set and listen in.  He gave me a lot of feedback that I didn't realize I made. I probably do realize it, but It was reassuring for me when he say it. When I gave up, he picked me up and tell me to approach. I can't wait to use my pickup line I develope with him, that's like my secret weapon.


Our group of bootcamp mates was fun to be around. The energy around us was amazing! One of the guy(you know who you are), got approach by a female rapper. Yes! A female rapper that open for lil wayne (famous rapper). She say something like, "your sexy" to him. He number close her. I hope he take her to the candy shop. That incident is going to be part of my comfort stacking for a long time.

Towards the end of the day. Mr. Awesome stop by to talk about the fashion side of it. He definitly knows his stuff, anybody needs a makeover should definitly contact him. In the fashion world perception is important, how you dress is how people going to perceive you as. I know some people going to say it's not that important, but it sure helps. He definitly can emphasize it more.

-Stratler

3/15 & 16/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review

Short Version: Wow!

Long Version: I attended the second Practical Pickup boot camp last weekend. It was an amazing experience. I had gone out with experienced guys before, who had offered comments on my game – but I had never been to a proper bootcamp. It has changed my life for the better. And I would recommend it to anyone.

The Practical Pickup team (Doc Holliday, Saffron and Entropy with Mayson as an approach coach ) did an excellent job. The whole experience was exhausting for all involved and exhilarating for the 5 students. It has to be said that the four instructors put in a huge amount of time. They were with us basically from noon on Saturday till 4am Sunday morning and from noon on Sunday to 11pm. If nothing else, that is an impressive level of dedication. In addition, there was a pupil-teacher ration of almost 1:1. Can’t really do better than that.


The were 4 basic parts to the weekend. There was a seminar on Saturday afternoon, night game in the field on Saturday evening, day game Sunday afternoon followed by fashion shopping and phone game seminar that evening.

The first part of the experience was the “theory” seminar. I put theory in quotes because, as the name “practical pickup” suggests, they were anxious to emphasize practical methods to help guys get and keep superior women. Thus we didn’t spend hours on evolutionary biology, but got down to the nuts and bolts of their method quickly. To be honest, I had anticipated that this part of the seminar would be the least useful to me. I have read every e-book and so I “know” it all – I just can’t do it! Nevertheless, it was a useful opportunity for me to ask questions and clear up some of the things I had been confused about. My only criticism of the entire boot camp is that there was too much material for complete newbies. If I hadn’t spent that last year reading every e-book I could find, I would have been pretty confused. I think that they could improve the seminar by providing students with basic material to read before hand and/or with more comprehensive notes for use during the seminar.

One thing that did impress me about the seminar was their public speaking skills. Although it was a small group, it is no mean feat to hold any group’s attention for two hours. All of them spoke clearly and more importantly all of them spoke in a structured framework i.e. they didn’t ramble but spoke to a clear agenda and purpose. This may not be surprising to anyone who knows the guys. But we have all been to enough bad lectures in school or college to know that it isn’t automatic.

After the seminar we adjourned for a break and met up in Vox for in field tuition. This was the part of the bootcamp that I was most looking forward to. I wasn’t disappointed. All 4 of the instructors offered very valuable comments on the sets I entered. Mayson was able to point out that I was pecking in one set. I stopped that. In another I was playing with the straw in my drink – a nervous tick that I was able to eliminate. This level of detailed comments greatly improved my game. I ended the night with the number of the most beautiful woman I have ever talked to! So there are no complaints there.

One interesting thing happened during the night. It was as if a switch flipped in my brain. Usually when I am out, I spend a lot of time in my head. I am sure many lair members have similar experiences. I spend time day dreaming about work, friends, sports, whatever --- anything other than the matter at hand. That didn’t happen during the bootcamp. I spent the entire time “in the moment”. I can’t be certain that this was because of the bootcamp. But it seems likely that the presence of the other instructors sort of forced all the extraneous stuff out of my head. In short, I think that on Saturday 15th of March 2008, at the tender age of 37, I finally learnt how to have fun! That alone is worth the price.

One little anecdote from the night game: I was talking to some girl when out of the corner of my eye I see Entropy start to talk to another chick. No surprise there. Then only 30 seconds later, I catch a glimpse of him making out with her!! Within a few minutes Saffron comes along and says that we are going to move as vox is getting sarged out. So we leave. It is clear that it super on with Entropy and the HB30seconds. But he leaves too. He had caught a big juicy fish – but he threw it back. No greater sign of dedication to the cause is possible…

On Sunday, we met in the Pru for day game. Now Saturday night had been good but Sunday was to blow my mind. I had come to the camp prepared to push out of my comfort zone. But I wasn’t really looking forward to the day game – especially as I knew the guys advocated going direct during the day. Not my scene. And to be honest, I probably wouldn’t have done anything if they hadn’t really pushed. In a way, one of the biggest advantages of a boot camp is that the embarrassment of wussing out and not opening in front of the instructor, is greater than the AA.

Saffron, showing no mercy, pushed me in to my first set, right there in the food court. The rest went off and Mayson stayed to observe. To my utter surprise (and with the aid of subtle hint from Mayson to end it and get the number) I got her number. Then I opened another set and got her number. Then another. And another. Within an hour I had five numbers. I was so dizzy with this success that I had actually forgotten the names of some of the earlier numbers! I have been calling and texting 3 of those girls since and I am not sure which is which! (Does anybody have advice on how keep track of multiple numbers? Some sort of spreadsheet?)

Each set that I was in was observed (and overheard) by one of the instructors. All were able to give specific comments on what I did right and what I did wrong. I could then apply this the next set. So my game improved exponentially. By the time of the last few sets, the women were toast!

I changed my game and tried to go indirect or get insta-dates and generally mess with the method again with the instant feedback of the various instructors. I didnt get any numbers this way but I didn’t care. My whole view of the game had changed. I now knew that I could go direct and get numbers during the day. A new and dangerous Greatkisser was born.

After the day game, we had a very useful session on fashion in the Pru. I have basically zero fashion sense. I simply wear what other people tell me looks good. So this session was pretty important for me and I took it all on board.

After the fashion session, we got some dinner and went back to the seminar room for Doc’s session on phone game. For me, this was critical. In the past I have often gotten numbers to see them evaporate before my eyes. I am using the method now, with the various numbers I got on Sunday. It seems to be working. It is certainly working better than my previous method.

The final stage of the bootcamp was the individual feedback. Each of the four instructors offered their thoughts on each student’s game. Each offered pointers for the future. This was very useful and I certainly know exactly what I have to work on next. The seminar ended with all of the instructor’s emphasizing that they would be available to answer questions via email or the phone on an on-going basis.

Finally 5 exhausted but exhilarated students made their way home at 11pm.  

- Greatkisser 

3/15 & 16/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review
 

Camp isn't just for kids anymore...

It's Monday night and I am still exhausted from a weekend that has deeply changed my perceptions of what is possible with women.

Actually, that was what I wanted most from the Practical Pickup team; to expand my perceptions to include their legendary success stories as a real possibility for me.

No small order.

And yet, these guys delivered!

The Practical Pickup bootcamp learning curve was like a telephone pole -- straight up and down, and straight through the fucking roof!

Although I had tried only ONE cold approach before (you can guess how it went), after one weekend with this team I now have four HB numbers in my phone, and a string of experiences that I'm catching myself smiling about as I write this.

A little preface: the word "newbie" pretty much sums up my game (lack_of) skill when I arrived at the bootcamp Saturday morning. I'd read The Game, listened to a David D product, and attended one Boston Lair group workshop - where Alik from the Lair was kind enough to take me under his wing and, after 45 minutes of chatting, help me to say something to a hired gun at Saks that wasn't related to clothing. I was terrified, with near-paralyzing approach anxiety.

Flash forward to six weeks later at the camp.

The deluge of information was impressive. I kind of jokingly commented that the coursework was so dense with material and information that part of my conscious mind had to shut down its filters for me to allow it all in. It was like sipping water from a firehouse (yeah, yeah, Doc - that’s what she said. lol).

The volume of information had an almost dizzying effect.

And the in-class exercises, where we developed unique individual openers, conversational threads, kino escalation techniques, and just how to be in-set, was more than a primer for the night’s festivities – this was a gateway drug. They gave us a taste, and then they set us loose on the town.

Entropy explained that my goal would be straightforward enough: since I was so new, my target was 10 cold approaches. Daunting, but fair.

I'd started a few, and was plowing along with no real hooking success, but then something changed. It took me a minute to figure out what, exactly. But then I realized what was happening...

As I'm doing my thing, the instructors were keeping a close watch, and after every set their laser-focused feedback made incremental improvements that brought near-immediate results.

And all of a sudden, I'm opening sets and chatting away.

On the second hour in, after opening one HB Asian, SHE PULLED ME into the center of her three girlfriend circle. Holy fuck. It was nice.

The night continued on this (awesome, amazing, glorious, somebody_stop_me) trajectory, growing and expanding, until finally culminating when Saffron sent me in to approach this hot little blond (straight from Ireland - Thank You Saffron!) sitting in a booth all alone.

Well, she WAS alone, at first.

Then her cockblock sat down. Befriended. Then a male "friend" sat beside me. Same. Then another guy. Before I knew it, I was running this four set, and I was the center of fun. Man, it was awesome. And I left with her number! A really cool bunch of folks.

As we were about to leave, I spotted a girl who’d given me some eye contact AI earlier, but who’d been sitting at the bar with some dude chewing her ear off all night. I wasn’t sure of what to do, but I knew I had to do something to meet her. A few moments before the group headed out, I asked Entropy for his advice (man, that dude is cool). A few encouraging words later, and it was on…

I wrote my name and number on a napkin, and headed for the door. In one motion and without stopping I put my right hand on the shoulder between her and the dude, whispered into her left, unoccupied ear that she should call me, and passed her the napkin. As I continued for the door I heard her say that it was nice meeting me - even though she didn't. Ha!

The following day was led by Doc Holiday as we ventured into his world of day game and the direct opener. Holy s-h-i-t! Who knew that speaking from the heart with direct intent and confidence could have such an amazing impact on women? Doc Holiday, of course.

Right out of the gate, using exactly what Doc had described just a few short hours before, I did my first ever direct approach – and number closed her in minutes. I must have looked like a grinning fool for most of the day after that (even though I got more numbers) because my ear-to-ear smile stayed on for so long that my face hurt by the time we got back to the debrief.

The team wrapped up the day with individual one-on-ones to discuss where they thought we could improve, and to help each of us create a strategy for improvement during the weeks and months to come.

These guys put out in a big way. I would highly recommend this bootcamp to anyone, and would especially recommend it to the newcomer who is as curious (and confused) by this incredible world of pickup as me.

Practical Pickup will not disappoint.

Oh, yeah, and on Saturday night I saw Entropy start tongue-wrestling a blond HB 9.5 within twenty seconds of seeing her using less than a dozen words.

Perceptions expanded? Check. Told him that he is my new personal God.

-JT1
 

3/15 & 16/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review 

First, in the interest of full disclosure, practical pickup has offered each participant a free 30 minute phone conversation for writing a review. Though this was certainly an incentive, I still think that this was a great bootcamp.
 

My background:

I am not a newbie. The last six to eight months have been an interesting journey for me in working on my inner game. I attended both the Art of Attraction seminar, which is Pickup 101’s day game product, and the Authentic Man Program in SF. Though the last six months I had specific 1 on 1 instruction from one of the AMP coaches which really helped my inner game. As a result, I went from nothing to having a consistent primary, and a secondary who is not that consistent. I also turned a PU of a hired gun into a date. My AA is gone, and I can approach anyone anytime anywhere. My sticking points were, ejecting from sets too soon because I ran out of material, and not turning any of the initial attraction I was generating into anything more.

Instructors were Doc Holiday, Saffron, Entropy, and Approach Coach Mason. The best presenter of the group was Doc Holiday. He instructed us on various topics like Day Game, phone game, and plowing. There were a few exercises that were certainly valuable. They included finding interesting things to talk about, something that I definitely needed. This of course led to the part of the workshop that was the most valuable, the infield coaching.
The coach I probably worked with the most was Entropy. He’s about my height and although he’s just 23, he has a maturity well beyond his years. My instruction was simple; don’t leave the set until the HB or an instructor tells you to. I think I certainly bored the living hell out of some of the HBs, who at times were giving me body language that it was time to go. But as Mayson explained, “plowing through rough patches helps you grow”. This led to the best set of the night at Citybar. A two set, HBBlonde and HBTeacher. It’s the best sets that you don’t even remember how you open, or what routines you run. The sets are just so natural and the conversation flows that it just seems to work. In this set, I was able to successfully bring in a wing, and isolate the target HBTeacher. I definitely feel like I improved throughout the night and the coaching was certainly valuable.
The next day brought day-game. I was once again given specific things to work on. Lower my energy, and begin to build comfort. Once again with the help of coaches I was able to improve throughout the day.

A week after the bootcamp, I definitely notice an improvement in my game. I’m getting better at building comfort and am starting to get numbers. True these numbers often turn out to be wood, but you have to start somewhere. I also liked that the instructors have told us that they aren’t looking for clients but rather long-term relationships with their students. One of the students has told me that he has already exchanged several e-mails with Mayson on inner game. Good luck getting Tyler Durden to pay attention to you after your money is in his pocket.
Obviously this bootcamp doesn’t compare with the Authentic Man Program but it definitely compares with Art of Attraction. Though it should be obvious from the name, practical pickup is more “practical”. Instead of running exercises looking in the mirror and saying what we saw like we did at AOA, I got to listen to tips from Doc about how to set up a day two. Instead of being taken to lunch on Sunday as I was with AOA, I got practical experience at the day-game location.

The measure of any bootcamp can’t be measured by how you feel a week after. It’s measured months or years after its ended. Practical Pickup was an excellent workshop at a very reasonable price.

-BKofBoston

 

3/15 & 16/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review

A quick Synopsis of the Weekend offered by some very experienced Lair Members:

Instructors/Coaches:

The Bootcamp consisted of 3 Instructors and an Approach Coach.

Saffron: PUA there whose been in the field since the age of 4. The man is living proof that having game has everything to do with having the right Frame.

Entropy: You would think he was a natural if you ever saw him in the field. He has a great, playful attitude and great stories.

Doc Holliday: the youngest of the 3 Instructors, and his Day game is unrivaled. His mastery in comfort was helpful during in-field sessions.

Mayson: The approach coach: an Incredible sense of style and has his frame down solid.

All were warm alphas who were genuinely invested in the success of every student.

The instructors spent the night game and day game tutoring and helping you with sets Each instructor/Coach gave good critical reviews of the students. All were masterful in their own skills in-field.

Special Props to 2 Instuctors:
Entropy who, as if by design, meets an HB8 in Vox and starts making out with her within 30 seconds

Saffron who, during day game, opens an HB9.5, while all us students were watching, and email/facebook closes her.

Thank you for blowing my reality!


Material:
material was very good. Based on natural game, much was review and much was new. Learning simple and proven techniques was useful. There was a lot of information to digest but it was great!



In-Field: Day Game and Night Game
The In-field time was the most valuable. The 2:1 student ratio was awesome, you got much personal attention. Being coached after each set was awesome and super insightful. I lost some of my attachment to what these people would think of me.

Summary:
I got a ton of useful information. The thing of most value was the In-field time. These guys are very good at what they're doing!

It's clear that it's all about your Frame and that you need to get out there to really see how this stuff works. Having a wing as super useful, as it puts you in State to fuckin' knock thse girls socks off...

I'll be going out With Entropy and Mayson for 1-on-1 sessions, and I'll report back on how that goes....

About me:
Indigo: I've known about the game for the past year but have sat on my ass. I've been reading about PUA stuff for some time now but had some approach anxiety. Signed up to get my ass out there, and I did.

I Got several numbers/emails over the weekend, but, as a newbie, I still have a bit to overcome.

2/16 & 17/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review 

I recently signed up for Practical Pickup's first ever boot camp and I will start off by saying that I highly recommend them to anyone looking to really raise their game to another level no matter what level your game is at currently.

I have been doing a lot of reading and now have nothing left to read. I have been solo sarging but not making much progress. When I got this opportunity, I made the investment in myself because the value was incredible and the instructors were people I already knew were credible based on having met most of them. I will now be able to solo sarge and critique my own game infinitely better than I could have in the past.


The instructors:

Saffron: This guy is either closing or opening. He has a very strong frame and is the perfect example of how limiting beliefs are completely an internal issue. He was relentless in pushing me into sets when he was with me but I didn't work as much with him as I did other people. He gave a great AMOG demo during the seminar where the instructors did a mock set and tried to AMOG each other.


Doc Holliday: Even though he's about half my age he was probably the main instructor I wanted to work with. He has a very similar sense of humor and perception of the world that I do. He's well known for his unbelievable day game and I was excited to get paired up with him for the day game in-field session. He didn't let me down. He helped me with hired guns and also with direct openers (which I had never used before). After watching my sets he was able to tell me what to change and what I did right.


Entropy: He has a natural presence. In fact, if he didn't tell us stories of his past failures I'd have pegged him as natural. He was really good at opening sets in night game and then having students come in and he'd roll out. I ran some practice material with him that really helped me transition to get myself deeper in sets. I'm sure if I had spent more time with him it would have been very insightful.


Mayson: He was there as an approach coach. He has done so much for himself with his own inner game that he can help anyone with theirs. He was great at pushing me into sets and even helping me out while in the set. He gave me great feedback in post-set review that I was able to use immediately. He has some crazy mad body language and facial expressions that convey so much with so few words and his energy is second to none.


There are a lot of things that are true of all the people I worked with. They are all very genuine people. They all actually care about your success. Different students got different things based on their needs. Each of them are great speakers and motivators who keep you interested in what they have to say.The instructors kept saying all weekend how they were so different but in the end, they weren't. They all had their own variations on their game but they all run game with the exact same nucleus and that is natural game.


The Material:

Sometimes people have a hard time buying into the material of the game because it's too calculated or incongruent with who they are. Practical Pickup is based completely on how to take all the great things about yourself and blend them with the great things about the woman and get them together to make something even greater. If you are sick of trying to remember The Cube or Rings Routine or Palm Reading or anything that isn't who you are at heart you have an alternative.

We did exercises on body language, eye contact, tonality and moving targets. Frames were another topic that were covered but also came up repeatedly throughout the boot camp. The quantity of material was far too much to remember and taking notes is imperative.


There are some things that are universal in the community. Opening, comfort, IOI's, DHV's are valid community jargon but the actual content of the boot camp was unique to them. At no point did I feel like I was getting regurgitated material from some other company or they cherry picked the best stuff from a bunch of boards and packaged it up and called it their own. They were all willing to do demo sets with out hesitation but made sure that the focus quickly shifted back to the students being in set.


In-field:

This was by far the most valuable part of the boot camp. That is not to say that the seminar material wasn't great it is more like saying the material was pure gold but the in-field was platinum with embedded diamonds. By the end of the in-field portion of the boot camp I had manged to run an incredibly tight set. One I know I could run again and again while being 100% genuine and honest. I have often seen many people with a lot of questions about day game and how there is not a lot of material on it but they broke down day game and made it very simple.


Dates:

They gave some great advice one how to turn numbers into dates. Various text message ideas and phone game ideas that make sense including some killer messages to send/leave. There was also a lot of insightful ideas on date logistics including setting up dates, things to do in the date to build buying temperature and post date tactics to close at the end of the night.


Summary:

The best things I can say about this boot camp was that it was fun. It was non-stop. From the minute it started until the minute it ended I was learning something. The instructors are all very genuine people. The Practical Pickup team really wants to help people achieve their personal goals and realize that while pickup is the initial goal that those who commit to the life style end up becoming better people in many aspects of their lives. Books and videos are a great way to get you involved in the community and I was very skeptical of the value of these boot camps but they have turned the world's biggest cynic to a total believer.

J, Ganglord

2/16 & 17/2008 Practical Pickup Bootcamp Review 

 Practical Pickup’s Boston Bootcamp was amazing!  The weekend was truly a completely life-changing experience.  A week before the bootcamp, my friend signed me up as a gift, so I really didn’t expect much going in: maybe a few new routines, a few canned openers.  I couldn’t have been more wrong.  The weekend was literally two days of non-stop learning.  I left with a new sense of confidence, a new understanding of pickup, and a huge improvement on my game.