HouzanSuzuki's post from deleted thread.

However, a difference of a nation and the culture occurs "in time of more smaller scale".

For example a Japanese sword is a work by Japan original preparation.
It is not culture to be able to tell by the classification that is the broad sense of a sword.

However, ChosonNinja covers up a point at issue.


And there were the agent and the assassin in the world.
There is still them in the world.
However, it is not defined as Ninja.

HouzanSuzuki's post from deleted thread.

"Culture of Ninja" is Japan original thing.
Moreover, it was born in history of a very short period.
And Ninja does not exist in the present age.

There are only school conveying technique of old-Ninja now.(Like a Bujinkan)
In addition, Japanese oneself knows well that a story of Ninja includes fiction.

As I tell many times, Ninjutsu is not simple mixing martial arts.
It is not merely to use the weapon which seems to appear in anime.

削除した前の動画からHouzanSuzuki先生のコメントだ けコピペ

歴史について語るときに朝鮮人が行う言い訳がある。つまり彼らは 論点を誤魔化す。
それは時代のスケールを考慮に入れないことだ。

たとえば剣という作品は世界中に存在した。
しかしこうした大きなスケールの起源で語れば人類の子孫は限定さ れる。たとえばアフリカに。

しかし民族とその文化の違いはもっと小さなスケールの時間の中で 生じる。

たとえば日本刀はあきらかに日本独自の製法によるものだ。
(刀それ自体の形状ではなく)その「製法」は、
伝わったものではなく、日本で生み出されたものだ。
それは刀という広義な分類で語れる文化ではない。
しかしChosonNinjaはこの論点を誤魔化している。

He meant ALL people in Japan came from Korea.
And this video shows how he came up with the conclusion.
You can find many Koreans just like him at allempire forum.

all he said was the closest land to japan was korea I mean I understand that the native americans came from china, korea, and japan. it's just simply migration patterns :P also he's half japanese

At the time of human migration, there was no Korean or Japanese or Chinese.
But ChosonNinja do not realize.
ChosonNinja's history view is Koreacentrism as he's shown, so Sakhalin the closest land to Japan was out of his sight.

Greg,
why don't you go to Houzan Sensei's cofee shop.

greg? lol

ithump3ri told me on PM

"I learned ninjutsu from my uncle who traveled all over asia, spent allot of time in japan he came back to the states and taught me everything he had learned."
私は忍術を叔父から習いました。彼はアジアを旅し特に日本に長く 滞在しました。アメリカに帰ってから私に（忍術を）教えてくれま した。


という事なので皆さんの質問ドゾー！

忍術とはなんですか？

っという質問をithump3ri にしたいです。

what question?

unfortunately patience was something my uncle had a hard time teaching me, I used to be a little hot headed. I give thanks and honor to ChosonNinja for teaching me the ways of patience and tolerance

ithump3ri says
"unfortunately patience was something ...."

訳
「叔父は短気だった私にガマンを習得させることに苦労しました。 だからガマンと慣用を教えてくれた朝鮮忍者には感謝しています。 」

LOL go in peace :)

You forgot to answer this

cyoro01's question to ithump3ri
"What's Ninjutsu?"

"ChosonNinja for teaching me the ways of patience and tolerance "

I do not see patience and tolerance in you.

cyoro01's question to ithump3ri
"What's Ninjutsu?"

I learned patience technique from the uncle.He travelled Asia and stayed long in especially Japan.After returning to America, you taught (patience technique) in me.
Because with it is saying, question [dozo] of everyone!

I also translate

ithump3ri says
"I learned patience technique from the uncle..."

訳
「叔父は私にガマンのテクニックを教えてくれました」

"I learned patience technique from the uncle..."

That's not Ninjutsu.
That's discipline.

それは忍術じゃなくて躾です。

dude that patience technique thing came from the japanese stuff I translated that you posted.. so did you just get out of school? how was math?

I think your uncle was wise.
To dicipline 5 years old kid, using Ninja would be effective.

すまん。間違えた

To ithump3ri

How do you know it's Ninjutsu?

when my uncle came back from his travels that was about 15 years, he had 3 belt ranks, white green and black. after he taught me everything and passed away I had doubt about what he taught me so I started doing research. he taught me how to use shurakans, blow guns, swords, sais, kubotans, staff, certain plants and it's chemical elements, how to walk, how to climb, how to fight. honestly if it is not legit ninjutsu it's a good kick off - also ninjutsu wasn't the only martial art he taught me

ithump3ri says
"when my uncle came back from...."

訳
「15 年前叔父が帰国したとき彼は白緑黒の3色帯のランクでした 。彼は私に全てを教えた後死にましたが、気になったので忍術につ いて調べました。彼は私にシュラカン（手裏剣？）、吹き矢、剣術 、サイス？、クボタン？、植物とその化学物質、歩き方、上り方、 戦い方。正直それが忍術でないというのなら、彼は忍術以外にもい ろんな武術を教えてくれたことになるね」

What are sais and kubotans?
Such words don't exist in Japanese.

サイスとかクボタンって何？
そんな日本語ないんだけど。

he taught me many forms from many countries

"he taught me many forms from many countries "

Then how do you know that's Ninjutsu?

well if it's not ninjutsu and another form of stealth martial art, I'm happy with that. the techniques are effective, thats all that really counts, as for the mental martial arts - I read my Bible that gives me enough guide lines on the way I live my life and treat people. also with time - things change it's an inevitability

ithump3ri says
"well if it's not ninjutsu and another form of stealth martial art, "

訳
「それが忍術じゃないのなら別のステルスマーシャルアートだね。 」

"well if it's not ninjutsu and another form of stealth martial art, "

What part of you MA is stealth?

well. walking, breathing, hiding, moving quickly unheard and unscene, escapes, and also taking an attacker out quickly and effectively

That's all?
Can you show us on your video?

ビデオ作って見せてくれない？

I'll make videos soon dont worry :) but if the japanese people do not want me claiming ninjutsu then I'll just call it something else :) I'm ending this conversation with this note. I honor Japan for the martial arts it has perfected over the centuries, same for any nation. And Also anybody that has developed there own unique styles and forms.. we must all remember - if it wasn't for the people that founded the original arts we would not have them

so be thankful for those willing to contribute, learn, and teach - not only just one form but ANY form rather it be traditional or original, or self designed - this was the way the martial arts where born, lets try to keep it alive :)

Thank You and God Bless

"Thank You and God Bless "

The most fishy thing about ChosonNina and the Ninjers is that they tend to connect Ninja and Christianism.

Theys say be faithful, be kind and respect other people. But they attack people who condemn the Ninjerism.

well for one my personal religious faith should never be questioned when asking about martial arts. if being a christian makes me unworthy of martial arts then so be it. and Christianism? thats not even a term used in the united states. it's called Christianity. See here in the United States we allow people to worship freely, and dojo's that teach martial arts here in the united states does not cross the line between church and dojo lol in other words they teach martial arts not religion

also I dont condemn anyone for any reason, I thought we was having a nice fair conversation about martial arts. also when I said God Bless, I truly meant it, I am a Christian a proud Christian. I treat people with kindness and respect, no matter there beliefs or religion.

And they twist the thing to freedom of religion issue.

well, welcome to america :)

over the corse of about 9 - 10 years I've learned more then what I was originally taught I took what I liked and what was comfortable for me to do and practice and developed my own individual style of fighting and defense. if this is a crime forgive me, but I honor all martial arts and all there origins.

ithump3ri says
"developed my own individual style of fighting and defense... "

訳
「私は自分にとって心地よいものだけを選び練習し自分なりの攻撃 、防御法を開発しました。それが犯罪というのなら許してください 。」

it's true, try using just one distinct form of martial arts in a street fight. I've seen plenty of black belts get knocked out at a bar

ithump3ri says
"try using just one distinct form of martial arts in a street fight..."

訳
「特定のフォームだけでストリートファイトやってみな。俺は酒場 で沢山の黒帯がやられるのを見た」

"I've seen plenty of black belts get knocked out at a bar "

Do people in your country go to bars with the black belts? Where're you from?

あなたの国では人々は黒帯締めてバーに行くんですか？何処の国？

I'm from America, Detroit, Mi. to be exact, everyone goes to the same bars and clubs - allot of black belts get jobs as bouncers (the guys that break up the fights, doormen) well when things get roundy the bouncers have to do there job.. allot of the time the bouncers get knocked off if they dont know what there doing

Can you tape it and post on youtube.
You are the strongest one in the bar right?

それ録画して投稿してよ。
君がそのバーで一番強いんだろ？

unfortunately I choose not to go to bars and clubs, I do not drink nore do I care if I'm the strongest anything lol. My brothers on the other hand are bouncers

"unfortunately I choose not to go to bars"

lol
I thought so.
行くワケないと思ったよｗ

I dont drink, I like to be clear headed, also I dont like the bar and club scene, loud music, really crowded, smells like vomit - I'm straight on that

lol

I dunno, but I think your a sad strange little boy :(

lol

for example if you practice Karate all your life and no one can take you while your standing up, you can fight off 10, 15, 20 opponents. all that training and time means nothing when your taken to the ground by a jiu jutsu or mma fighter

So basically you are doing same thing as Choson.
It's OK to develope your own style so why don't you name it something like ithump3ri-ryu MA? Because it's nothing to do with Ninjutsu.

つまり君は朝鮮忍者と同じ事やってるわけだ。自分で武術を開発す るのは構わないけど忍術とは関係ないのだから別の名前つけなよ。

"he had 3 belt ranks"

Your uncle was also a victim of Ninja fraud.
There is no belt system in Ninjutsu.
The belt system was created sometimes in Taisho period(1912-1926) for Judo then other MA started using it.
君の叔父も忍者詐欺の被害者だね。忍術に帯段位制度なんて無い。 そもそも帯制度は大正時代頃につくられたものだ。

well my uncle sure aint over 200 years old...

It is completely different "to say a word of humility" and "to be really faithful".

Please "Observe" youeself more.
Like the Chinese character which I presented.

謙遜の言葉を言うことと、本当に誠実であることは全く違う。
日本人には、明確にその二つの違いが分かるのですよ。

自分自身をもっと観察してください。
私がプレゼントした漢字のように。

A coffee shop always opens only for him.

茶飲み話の出来る喫茶店は、
いつでも開店していますよ。あなたただ1人のために。

わざわざ、このビデオを作りました。　　　　　↓　
"Coffee shop for a talk (Only for Greg and Me) "

Is he going to go coffee shop?

to question ones faith is like to question there thoughts.
No man can know another mans thoughts ;)

same goes for faith. I wont know or understand the level of faith you have in your beliefs even if you explained it all to me. like you will never know or understand the level of faith I have in my beliefs, and same goes for everyone, but the one thing that counts above all is at least everyone has faith. My faith lies in The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of my fathers

I do not do interest to opinion of ithump3ri.
I am interested in only opinion of ChosonNinja.

I hear "how do you think about situation of a Japanese of this time and your opinion opposition" to him.

I do not ask you background of your self-introduction and belief.

ithump3riの意見に私は興味しない。
ChosonNinjaの意見にだけ興味がある。
なりすまし行為に関心はない。

私は彼に、
「今回の日本人とあなたの意見対立の状況についてどう思うか」を 聞いている。
あなたの、つまらぬ自己紹介や信仰の背景を質問しているのではな いわい。

行きなさい
を使って
平和

There does not seem to be Toshiko today.
Such Nonsense Japanese,
"Go away"??,or
"Get along peacefully"???

Then I can not understand it.
Of course, my English will be strange, too.

今日はToshikoさんが居ないようだ。
こんな日本語じゃ、
「出て行け」なのか「平和にやっていきなさい」
なのかわからん。まっ、むろん私の英語も変だろうが。(苦笑)

lol language barriers are hard huh?

これはレスポンスビデオなのでこれを著作権で削除させるというこ とは朝鮮忍者自身の評判にもかかわるでしょうね。
朝鮮忍者は批判的なコメントを削除することで有名ですから。

話題を変えて申し訳ないが、
Gregの認定したインストラクターの中にBijinkanで学 んだと申告していた、おっさんがいた。
彼はその証書のような紙を見せていた。

しかしその証書には「日付」が入っていない。

生徒として認定する書式には必ず日付がある。
認定書や契約書には必ず日付が必要である。
あれは誰かの証書のコピーか?

武神館はある意味外人向け観光道場ですから、あらかじめ大量に証 書を作っておいてセミナー（笑）に参加した人全員に配ってるんじ ゃないでしょうかね？
ちょっと私も調べてみますね。

He is Jason, MOUNTAINOUS
If he is not the staff whom Greg appointed, I'm sorry.

ちょっと面白いのみつけたんでＰＭします。
証書はそれぞれの道場で勝手につくれるみたいですね。

I think the certificate is prepared one mailed form Bujinkan in Japan.
The foreign instructor just add date and English translation of the rank.
The instructor was simply didn't know the Japanese era so the part was empty.

多分それはあらかじめ用意されてる証書で、外国のインストラクタ ーが日付と英語だけ書き加えられるようになってるんじゃないかな ？
で、そのインストラクターは日本の年号がわからなかったのでは？

青文字のkimuchinidaをクリックしてください。
その中の
「朝鮮忍者がアジアの歴史を教えてやる（日本語字幕）」
が問題の動画です。

どうも、認定書の件で、とある人が、
えらい興奮しているようです。
私は「まー、落ち着いて、本部道場からの返事を待ちましょう」と 言っているのに、
「あいつぁー、本物だぁぁ。証拠写真おくってやるぅ。」とか騒い でおります。
忍耐が足りんぞな。

もしも武神館があんなテキトーな認定書を出しているとしたらちょ っと笑えます。

いえ、でも、あまりにも支部が多くて管理できない場合には、あり えます。それもいたしかたないかとは思いますが、返事がまだ来て いませんので、なんとも。

ただし、日本の一般的な古武道ではあり得ませんねせめて卒業証書 ぐらいには作っているかと。

Now the Ninjers are twisting again?
Hip Hop?
Go to Hip Hop videos and enjoy your racist ranting.

ヒップホップがどうしたんだよ？
ヒップホップのビデオで暴れて来いよ。

lol I'm not racist tword anyone.. if anyone is racist and acting racist it's you and all these other haters! talking crap about a guy because of his racial decent should be ashamed of yourselves

"ChosonNinja for teaching me the ways of patience and tolerance "

I do not see patience and tolerance in you.

I'm still here talking to you right? I must have some form of patience and tolerance because talking to you is like convincing a monkey not to sling poo!

"talking to you is like convincing a monkey"

Another racist comment.

dude if you took that racial your redundant trying to teach a monkey not to sling poo is like saying you'll never stop the oceans tide.

also you can stop takin stabs at me any time now lol your doing yourself no good and only waisting your time tryin to convince me that I'm a member of a "cult" and I'm a christian ninjer if I wasn't mistaken wouldn't the word ninjer and christianism be slurs also? not of racial but still thats slander and an insult so you know what....


( Y )oO).oO(Apologize)

Making excuse?

If you believe you are ninja, just show us some real ninjutsu like the 3 major Tonjutsu I mentioned.

本当に自分が忍者だと思うのなら例の3大遁術を披露してください 。

well if you where such a big authority on ninjas and ninjutsu then you would know that Dr.Hatsumi the only person recognized by the country of Japan as a True Ninja, set forth 3 original belt ranks for Bujinkan. White, Green, and Black... dont I remember you saying that my uncle was a victim of Ninja Fraud because those where his belt ranks earned in the art of the ninja? are you calling Dr.Hatsumi a Fraud????

"Dr.Hatsumi the only person recognized by the country of Japan as a True Ninja"

lol
He's the original Ninjer fraudster.

if he is the original ninjer fraudster then why does your country recognize him as the only true Japaneses ninja?

"does your country recognize him as the only true Japaneses ninja? "

Only Bujinkan members recognize him as true Ninja and most of Bujinkan members are non-Japanese.
They are like cult too.

I've been criticizing Hatsumi on other videos.
So ChosonNinja's claim that I bash him just because he's Korean is senseless.

I thought Maasaki Hatsumi said ChosonNinja was a fake?

Perhaps Mr.Hatsumi does not know ChosonNinja.
However, a claim may come from the true head office of Bujinkan in the near future.

The former(Last year) claim was from the person who called itself a European branch office of Bujinkan.
However, it will be sued international from true head office, this time.

Balance is good for Japan,
and there is opinion of the yes and no about Bujinkan.
I individual is skeptical about "the pedigree".
However, I think that they succeed to several kinds "old Japanese martial arts about skill itself rightly".

The skill of Ninja is recorded in Koga and Iga.
The history of Ninja and the pedigree are very complicated.
Even we Japanese needs a lot of study.
Issue in this Video is, martial arts of Choson are not to be Japanese martial arts.
In other words it is not "Ninjutsu""Ninja" too.

Both are fake Ninja to me.
But at least Hatsumi has real Soke titles of some martial arts.
So using Ninja is just damaging him.

朝鮮忍者も初見さんも私にとっては偽忍者です。
しかし初見さんは実際いろんな流派の宗家でもあります。
従って忍者で売ることは彼にとってはダメージです。

その展開の図式が、彼には全く理解できないでしょうね。
初見氏のビデオとか見ると、ヤバイほどカルト的に見えました。武 術家というより教祖といった感じでした。ただ今後は、武神館本部 と朝鮮忍者の間にトラブりそうな気配があります。私はそれを見物 といきます。

初見さんは最近サムライのイメージで売り始めたので、薄々ニンジ ャーのヤバさに気付いてるんじゃないでしょうかｗ
死ぬ前にちゃんと「ニンジャーはウソです」って書いておいて欲し いです。

う、それはそれでヤバイですね。そうなると、西洋人は、忍者プラ ス、「侍」とか武士道とか(実際にはそんなカッコいい人達でなか ったのに)が頭の中で闇鍋みたいになりそうです。恐ろしい・・・ 

ごく「一部の」ヒーロー的な侍は実在しても、ドラマや映画で描か れるあれって「浪人」とか「逃亡者」とかなわけで。暴れん坊将軍 にしても、眠り狂四郎などの密使系のドラマにしても「不正を正す 者」として誇張されすぎ。真に受け取られたらたまらんです。

Watch this video
"Response to Lost History-Ninja Lore"

Togakure-ryu is a fabrication by Ninja mania Takamatsu.
There was a big Ninja boom in Taisho period.
Takamatsu mixed a bunch of Asian MA and named it Ninjutsu, that's all.
It's common knowlidge among serious martial artists.
The Bujinkan dojo in Japan is basically a foreign tourist attraction.

このビデオに対する批判ですね、分かります。
" Korean Cowboy Gangsters "
watch?v=cmldDDlc5pI

Nobody has said Christians are cult.
ChosonNinjers are cult.
That's all.
You're attepmting to switch the issue to discrimination just like what ChosonNinja has done.
But the fact is you guys have been posting racial slurs like "Nip dogs".
I'm sure real Christians never say such a thing so I think ChosonNinja's Christianism is different from the real one.

mr.Houzan down there made a video about Christianity being a cult.. and also I'm here to tell you and anyone else! I may be a Christian but I am no ones door mat! and I never used the term "Nip Dogs" or any other racial slurs at all Christianism is not even a word!! you know what I think your problem is... your jealous! Jealous that ChosonNinja has so many subscribers, fans and followers that it makes you sick because at the end of the day... your just a sad lonely lil' kid in Tokyo

2 of the same cult members posted the racial slur. Whatever you make excuse, I recognize you are same as the racists.

dude.. I'm white... I'm from Detroit Michigan. there are more racial diversities here then any where else in the world! I have black friends, I have hispanic friends, I have asian friends - like I said I DO NOT DISCRIMINATE NORE AM I A RACIST TWORD ANYONE

You made me convince that you are racist because of your recent comments.
Thanks for letting us know true face of the Choson cult.
Calling Japanese a monkey is common in Korea.

あなたが私を猿と罵ったことであなたがレイシストであることを確 信しました。チョソンカルトの真実を教えて くれてありがとう。日本人を猿と呼ぶのは韓国では普通ですから。

keep insulting us and calling us a cult and I'll make you feel 2 inches high.. oh yea you are

insult for insult :)

Quate from a Korean Christianism video.
"Brain-washed people cannot recognize themselves are brain-washed, even when you show them evidences. "

dude I practice my religion they way my mother does, my grandparents, my great grandparents, my great great grandparents, and so on. wayyyy before I knew ChosonNinja I was practicing my religion the same way then as I do now... are you saying that 10 generations of American Christians where influenced by Korea??

You are surely influenced by the Choson Ninjerism.

you are surely infuenced by idiotism

lol
What happened to your Nintaijutsu?

And who is "Zen Master"?
Are you?
What is "Zen Master"?
Please explain.

What do you respond to?
The Prussian blue?

そうか、キャント・スルーですが。
哀れなやつなんですね。こいつは。
ところで、いつものこのアホウは、ヒップホップの真似しやがって とか言ってるんですかね?
別にあれが日本で生まれたなんつーてないし、
仮にそう主張して「捏造」でもするならば、
ちゃんと母国語で「尻上」と書きますよね。(笑)

朝鮮忍者のオリジナルビデオでも、コメント欄に「日本人は文化を 盗まれるとか言うが、自分たちはヒップホップをを真似しているじ ゃないか、あれとどう違うんだ」と書き込んでいる奴が結構います ね。
ヒップホップを持ち出せば説得力があると勘違いしているｗ。

そんなアホ言ってるんですか。
謙虚に学んで異国発祥の文化として楽しむのと、
「ヒップホップは、俺らの韓国で生まれたんだぃ」と傲慢に妄想を 言うのとでは、大違いですよね。
そんな簡単な違いも分からないのが朝鮮人参たちなわけですね。

ヒップホップの起源を主張したのはむしろ韓国ですよ。
伝統芸能パンソリが起源だとか９年ぐらい前に新聞記事になってハ ン板で盛り上がった記憶が。

Korea was the one who claimed origin of Hip-Hop was Korean Pansori.

LOL I know better then that, the only nation in the world that claims the origin of hip hop is the united states, but I know for a fact if I went to japan I'd see a bunch of lil' japanese thugs

A white man claiming "We invented Hip Hop" is funny. Black people may have something to say to you.

"but I know for a fact if I went to japan I'd see a bunch of lil' japanese thugs "

See! You are racist.

keep twisting it kid lol I said hip hop was born in AMERICA!!! durrrr meaning it came from AMERICA I didn't flat out say "err white people invented hiphop" dude grow up...

This thread isn't Hip-Hop thread.
I'm not Hip-Hop expert.
If you keep switching the Ninja issue to Hip-Hop issue, I'll have to ban you just like your holy lord Choson does.

Wow, It is their National Illness!

No way.

すげぇ。国民的病気だ。
ダメだこりゃ。

ithump3riが「叔父の忍術は3色帯の段位だ」と誇らしげ に語ったときは噴出しました。
空手かよとｗ

明らかに忍術を誤解している集団がいますね。

刀をクルクル回すような忍者がいるのでしょう。

訳しま～す
hitac01 says
"What kind of Ninja spins the sword?"

なんで奴は火に油を注ぐような事をするんだろう。
完全にやる事が日本人じゃないよ・・・

あの朝鮮人参のケースでは、一般的な韓国人が今までにやってきた 反日とは少し違うことを踏まえるといいと思います。違うのは「動 機」の部分です。
生徒や信者の手前、面子と見栄で、自分の失言から生まれた日本人 とのケンカにも引けなくなって、韓国人に知恵を借りているといっ た感じです。
つまり、

自分のスクールと信者の前で、知ったかぶりをしないと生徒が離れ る、それが嫌というのが唯一の動機です。あとは、すぐに調子に乗 る彼の悪癖。
普通の韓国人は、感情だけで反日やっていますが、
朝鮮人参にとっては、信者を増やせれば、反日だろうが親日だろう がどうでもいいわけです。
結果、彼は韓国人、中国人の支持者がほとんどいません。

北米で白人と非白人ではおおまかに差別がある。すると、こういう お調子の「アジア人同士の愛」とか口にすると日本人の耳にはクサ くても「差別を感じているタイプのアメリカ人」には受けます。さ らにそこにキリスト教がからむと。そうした状況を無意識に集客に 利用している点から朝鮮人参の性質な動機の全ては武術や宗教です らもなく「韓国的な自己顕示欲」。

「自分のスクールと信者の前で、知ったかぶりをしないと生徒が離 れる」

まさにこれですね。
あの人の自己顕示欲は異常です。

ある程度コメント付いたら魚拓取って
動画ダウンロードして自分がうｐしますよ。
動画ネタが少なくなってきて困ってた良かったわ

あの動画使い方によっては自爆ですよ。
朝鮮忍者が英訳してうｐするそうなので楽しみに待ちましょう。

buffon399さん

あの動画については、私は、こっち↓で、やることにしました。

watch?v=DYRzjrC-1yE

まったく「だからどうした?」ですね。

yea well sorry to tell ya buddy I'm not from korea I'm not korean I'm white and I'm a red blooded american. and the way you kids are acting is redundant and idiotic! you call us a cult for worshiping Christ and practicing Martial arts. How about I call you a cult for worshiping a fat bald guy and idols of male genitalia

I don't care your race at all.
You guys always twist the Ninja issue to something else, for example a racial issue.
I don't care who you are, I don't like Ninjer liars.
That's all.

ok you want straight up ninja, no race, no religion... then why do you bring it up?????????????

Bring what up?

It will be mystery I think.
It is still "an influential hypothesis" of a study stage.
What do you think?

"DNA evidence backs up 'out-of-Africa' human origin theory

WASHINGTON (Reuters) Genetic research unveiled Thursday provides compelling support for the theory that anatomically modern humans rose out of Africa in the past 100,000 years and swept aside populations of prehistoric man, with no interbreeding. "

Pardon me.
My mother is green, and a father is gray.
They were born from the sky.(Sirius and Orion)
Therefore I am green and a gray half.
There was my progenitor more before than creation of earth.

彼は、どうも、あの内容が痛いので、
掲載したくないようですね。___________

朝鮮忍者の奴、勝利宣言して逃げましたね。

彼が安心したこれからが、仕込んでおいたトラップの出番です。
ところで、トシコがこれらの日本語のコメント欄を訳してくれず、 何言われているか分からずにイラついているようです。
連中の仲間の在日系のatomtom2にその分頑張っていただく としましょう。

ChosonNinja did not approve your last 5 comments.
He's like Kim Jong Il.

キムジョンイルそっくりですね。

Kill Joy Ill.
(The sick who enjoy slaughter)

もしも他の人がこのことについて書きたいのであれば、英語で書き 込むのであれば歓迎するとのこと
です。
___

論理が破綻していたら個人的には全く無関係の人間からも突っ込ま れる。そんなのネットの常識だろうが。いちいち「ボクが一体君に 何したんだよ」とか言うのかね。どうやら論議すると「いじめ」と 取るようだ。

buffon399さんへ私信。

喫茶店のコメント欄の英文は重要な争点なので、知人に、もっとマ シな英語に直してもらいました。

拝見しました。
要するに知りもしないことにクビ突っ込むなって事ですよね。
まあ相手はカルトで脳内の働きが異常だから理解できるとは思えま せんけど、まともな人ならあの5個のコメントを朝鮮忍者が握り潰 した理由がわかるでしょう。
痛いとこ突いたわけです。

まだカルトに汚染されてはいない危ない状態の外人さんの目に、ど うディスプレイされるかが私には重要でした。彼との口論はその道 具といったところです。さて朝鮮忍者が消しにくいような「微妙な 意見」を彼の取り巻きがもしも書いてしまったときの反応も面白そ うです。

"take a small fraction out of the video"
"cut it off at a wrong point"

いやいやいや、朝鮮忍者が歴史と文化に言及しているビデオは、ど れも最初から最後まで日本に対する悪意に満ち満ちていますよ。決 して断片的に取り上げたものではありません。

"that asian culture is connected together, then split and diversified"

それはあなたの想像であって、朝鮮忍者が言うような、日本文化の 起源は朝鮮半島だという根拠にはまったくなりませんね。

"that asian culture is connected together, then split and diversified"

Tell it to Koreans.
They are the ones claiming Uriginal.

Exactly, who came from what split is scientific fact. Modern genetics is a wonderful thing. Koreans came from Lake Baikal. Japanese came from mostly Korea, Southern China, with traces of aboriginal Ainu, South East Asian, Pacific Islander mixed in.

My theory is that much Far Eastern culture came from China and some of it from Mongolia. The Koreans and the Japanese already their own unique culture but the the Chinese spread their culture to Japan and Korea and the Japanese and Koreans developed the Chinese cultural values to their own. The Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, ext will at least admit that they get some of their culture from others, but the Koreans have a hard time doing that for some reason.

Reason.
There is not culture to be able to be proud of to a Korean.
And they long for Japan and China.
However, they feel a sense of humiliation and have malice to Japan simultaneously.
As a result, they found the escape approach which did not feel sad.
It is an approach it steals culture, and to forge the history.
They swindle their complex thereby.

"you make your self look bad when you do one sided things like this video, not educated"

朝鮮忍者をお題にした日本のネット掲示板にも、こういう言い回し をする人が頻繁に出没しますよ。若しかして同じ方ですか？

総じてあなたの書き込みは抽象的なことしか書いていない。まあ、 具体的な批判を書こうとしても書けないだけでしょうけどね。そん な言葉遊びで人を納得させられるとお考えですか？

"cut it off at a wrong point and try to disprove him"

Did you really watch the video?
The original video was "cut offs" from a Korean TV program.

Another Koreacentrist?

Here's their trick.
All Asians have roots in Ancient Mongoloid.
But the Korean nationalists name them "Koreans" and propagate there was a nation called Hwanguk.

"Han Guk" refers to Han(different from Chinese Han) nations in Korean from the beginning of recorded history which goes much farther back than any recorded Japanese history. Anything you would recognize as being "Japanese" either in culture or history comes from Korea and CHina in any case when national concepts of Korea and Japan were formed. E.g. Yamato Japan was formed by Korean royalty and was a copy of Korean royal court. 2/3 of Yamato ruling class were Korean according to Japanese records.

このmelonbarmonsterって奴は典型的な朝鮮1万年 の歴史系です。
あのHwan Gukは実在したと言ってます。

あっちで書きたい放題やっているようですが、
観客の目に映るであろう状態としては、西洋人的論理ですか?それ とも、いかにも朝鮮的で、西洋人も引くと思いますか?そのあたり の「見え方の推測」が私には分からないのです。

""Han Guk" refers to Han(different from Chinese Han) nations"

Yes Yes!
You are the man who believes "Hwan Guk" origin of the 4 major civilizations!!!
(See my video!)
You are Hwanpa!

Did I say I thought Korea was the source of everything? No, I didn't.
Take a deep breath and try and open your ears and not just shoot off your mouth.
Japanese people genetically and linguistically came from Korea.
That is just science, western science, not Korean science.
I'm not intersted in what Koreans say, or what Hwanguk is.
Japanese came from Koreans. Koreans, in turn, came from somewhere else, some central Mongolian race that is not yet clearly understood.

First of all, you have to learn how was the time of human migratin.
Did Korea exist in 500000 years ago?

I'm talking about the sense.
When humans were migrating, there was no Korea or Japan or China.
Only Koreans think they must be Koreans like you say.
They were Ancient Mongoloids.

Koreans existed as a genetically distinct population sometime after the migration of peoples from Lake Baikal. Genetic distinctions between Han Chinese, Koreans, Mongolians, Manchurians are documented as matters of fact, not opinion. Pre-yayoi and yayoi immigration of Koreans to Japan occurred well after genetically, culturally distinct populations had settled in the Korean peninsula which is why most Japanese have Korean mDNA or Korean Y chromosomes.

Of course, Japanese also have the root in Buryats so they have similar DNA.
And it's true many people migrated in yayoi period. However even in the time, people didn't recognize themselves as "Korean" or "Japanese".
They were "human" from "other villages".

As for the DNA,Japanese are known as having D-lineage Y chromosomes DNA.
Other ethnisity with the D-lineage are Tibetans and some Middle Easterns.
Chinese and Koreans are O-lineage.

Maybe Confucianism?
They believe claiming origin can make them put upper position.

chosonninja = coward. He doesn't allow fair arguments to take place. He just assumes he is right, spits out something Religious, then blocks you.

I don't think so.
Though I'm interested why he mentioned Yamaguchi-gumi.
He sounded like his cousin in Japan is Yakuza but the comment was deleted.

yes yes exactly. I also wondered about that. I'll tell why. There is missionaries in diffrent countries. Among them there is government people whose job is to collect inteligence. They go to theological studies and everything legal and they join a mission to a country through all the correct legal channels. They don't care about the mission they care about providing data to the govt department they work for. These individuals havea certain pattern of behavior. You can find same with criminals.

Also Choson mentioned to a person as a threat to him that he knows mafia in Japan. He might have ties to Koreans in Japan involved in criminal activity. His cameraman is one of those guys who doesn't care about honesty and thinks of women and money and a good time. He, Choson, talks lovem god bless etc, yet he has behavior contradicting that. Like making threats to people. All this makes it seem like he is using that talk as a screen and has some other agenda behind it.

He may have connection to Chongryon because South Koreans hate to be called Choson.

>because South Koreans hate to be called Choson.
___Good indication___

とうとう日本が使えなくなった。だから「韓国を使おう」という腹 でしょう。中国も彼には使えませんからね。
アメリカ国旗は一時使おうとして止めたようです。
つまり彼には元々、確かなアイデンティティーがないという不安が 付きまとっているのでしょう。

日本語
朝 鮮忍者の信者からPMでずっと嫌がらせされてるんだけど、その うちの一人MrClaptonBluesはPropaganda Busterの動画にアメリカ人を侮辱するようなこと書いてるん だよね。これで朝鮮忍者のまわりにいる人間がどんな種類の人間な のかわかってきたね。

Q:ChosonNinja, Not Japanese?!?!
watch?v=ZXWyYT4mYOw

たぶん大文字か何かを含んでいたので不正なアドレスと
表示されたと思いますので、張りなおしました。

The Corean rustic is, as a rule, illiterate. Probably only about four out of ten males of the farming class can read either Chinese or Corean, but counting in the women it is estimated that about eighty-five per cent of the people can neither read nor write, though the percentage varies greatly with the locality.(p. 444)

Corea has no samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to a high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country.(p. 450)

Japan traded with it directly with China from the ancient times. The Korean Peninsura was only a way station. By the way, what is the culture that Korea taught in Japan?
It is only imitation of the Chinese culture.

yes. japan traded with china from the southeast coast after tang dynasty. and the ancient chinese there affect them a lot. so some of them word are the same as wu dialect. after 1860,japanese translated a lot of the word of western countries use the chinese character, then the word were borrowed back to china.

"after tang dynasty. "
No there are historical records that prove Japan had relationship with Sui.

Wow ChosonNinja posted on you channel.
" ChosonNinja
GodlessNinja (4 hours ago) lblocker userl
hey fuck the martial arts training if you die you're going to heaven so why don't you just go get yourself killed?

ChosonNinja (52 minutes ago)
Tell you what... Why don't you go ahead of us rather than complaining like a bitter mother in law?Your blocked. "

I don't understand why so many Ninja dorks worship the uneducated temper man.

This "ninja" video reminded me.
Last week I saw a website by a Korean club where Korea now claims Kendo is originated from Korea.
How far are they going???

"New York (Tadias) - Three new genomic studies released last week provide the most detailed road map yet of human diversity, offering insight into how humans spread from Ethiopia to populate the globe over the last 100,000 years.Two of the studies appeared in Nature on Thursday, while a third appeared in Fridays edition of Science. "
Saturday, February 23, 2008

go deeper into same studies and you'll find that native americans have asian& caucasian mitochondrial dna not african.

but if you keep tracing the origin it all leads back to africa....it is what it is

it all leads back to primordial soup, which was cooked & stired differently on 7 different continents.

is that suppposed to be a joke?

"it has been claimed the japanese royal family has white features(ainu). "

Who's claiming?
Please specify the name and the documentations.

certainly not the ainu.

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