ごもっとも。ただの武術オタクだとあそこまでならないものなので すが、アレは宗教とオカルトが混ざっているので念力風車とか回し て「気だ」とか平気で嘘こいている。まー完全なカルトだからオウ ムみたいに犯罪をするまで突っ走ってもらうしかないですね。ただ し仲間同士で闘争してくれて、カタギの被害者は一切出さないで欲 しいものです。

Wait until ChoosyNinja says, "Anime come from Korea, not Japan!"

Such a mad.
It seems to he is just a Anime fan.
I'm sorry for Greg's students.

室内の写真の元動画は知りませんが、振り回してる動画はこれでし ょうか。さすがに代々受け継いだ刀だとは言ってませんが。
watch?v=Qa7pkv-cfRU&feature=ch annel

連刃刀は代々受け継いだとは言ってないです。
ただ武術家としてアニメ小道具を自慢げに振るレベルの低さを強調 してみただけです。

アニメの刀とは微妙に違うみたいですね。
Bbuffonさんのビデオに写ってる刀と同じなのかも判然とし ません。
とにかくありがとう。

まあ逆刃刀が売ってるくらいだから連刃刀も撃ってるのかもしれま せんね。

撃ってる->売ってる。

はい、確かにアニメの刀のいくつかを日本では売ってます。私の取 引先の武道具店も売っている。たぶん輸出もされているでしょう。 でも日本の側には罪ないですよ。ちなみにアメリカだと合金ではな くてステンレス製の刃付きの忍者刀もあるはず。州法によっては違 法所持(または携帯)になります。

玩具ですか？

いや、結構ちゃんとした模造刀で刀剣屋で売ってる。
ググると出てくるよ。

というか、これって、「パン切り包丁」かい?

逆刃刀って、一回折れるんだよね。で刀匠が造ったのが剣心の手に 渡る。私はあのアニメ、大好きだったなー。イタチとタヌキとキツ ネの女性3キャラも良かったな、うぃー。

Please tell ChosonNinja to leave Ninja alone and stop spreading lies.

＞You leave hateful comments on his video,
Well,,excuse me ,,,but no one whose has opposing views from his can leave a comment on his video. He blocks them all. So, no one can leave a hateful comment. あのーすいませんけど、彼は反論ですらブロックするので、hat eful commentsなんてとてもとても残せないんすけど。

ソレを信じる馬鹿の多さにもあきれます。

お言葉ですが、仲見世の入り口すぐ左の「小池商店?(店名の記憶 が曖昧ですみません)」では売っているかも(笑)。私もそこで子 供のときに亜鉛合金の忍者刀を買いました。またチョ忍が見せびら かしていた車剣も四分の一ぐらいは日本製の、それも30年も前か ら売っている最もチープなものです。

そうそう。刀匠が本当にひっくり返って、腰を抜かす品々は、鎌倉 の「山●堂」さんにこそあります(爆)。

"Sniffing used panty"

The Choson Ryu Nintaijutsu is quite strange.

Please show suorces.
It's easy to post random comment.

for what? that ninjato existed? give a source that says it did not exist

"give a source that says it did not exist"

Asking proof of non-existence is called Devil's proof=nunsense.

It has been denied.

it was forbidden for usual people to carry swords"
-That's after Hideyoshi's Katana-gari.

In Edo period, some wealthy merchants and farmers were allowed to carry Katana.
Other usual people could carry wakizashi when special occasions or when traveling.

There was no border between samurai and farmers when the time Ninja was active.
So anybody could carry sword then.(pre-Katana-gari)

i mean hatsumi uses ninjatos, so there must be some truth in it.
why should merchants and farmes carry swords, if they have no idea how to use it? beside the fact how they could be able to afford so much money to buy one

>i mean hatsumi uses ninjatos

Do you think it can be a source?

>i mean hatsumi uses ninjatos

Bujinkan isn't Koryu anyway.
Hatsumi can use light saver if he wants.

soke hatsumi uses a ninjato that is just a wakizashi in katana saya. we do not use straight swords in the bujinkan.

>why should merchants and farmes carry swords

Well obviously you haven't read enough books about Japanese history.
Go research what 苗字帯刀 is.

Please read my opinion by Japanese general "common sense" about a "Ninja sword"

Mr.NakamuraMondo08 translated it into English.

watch?v=nsp5xpe1JSw&feature=ch annel_page

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Ok, I read them. All great points indeed. Particularly arguing against having your sword over your shoulder. Such a thing would probably be more historically done by the warriors of Europe.

It is surely not bad "as a carrying way" to shoulder on its back.
However, it will extremely become in the "non-efficiency fencing" in a battlefield.

He says it syllable by syllable, lol.

Speak for yourself if you have descency.

And what do you mean by the harshest way?

You want to know where he lives?

Sounds to me like you are meaning harm to Greg Park.

If so, you dishonor yourself and all other true martial artists...

uh? What did I say to dishornor myself and other true martial artists? I am a martial art practitioner myself and can not forgive what Greg Park had done to us, and the country of Japan. He LIED about our ancestors, LIED about Japanese history, LYING to people in US. Why are you protecting such a LIAR? Give me the reasons.

I am protecting what I believe is true. Both sides, his and the haters, prove good points.

I wonder what you meant by "is there anyone who knows where he lives" and "Greg Park should be taught a lesson the HARSHEST WAY."

If you intend harm to this man, you are not a true martial artist.

Then you should educate yourself how wrong your belief is, the belief which came from single Korean man who claims to be a decendant of NInja and boasting around how great he is on YT? Yeah, we should act on Greg Park face to face and get him arrested. What he does is illegal teaching things based on LIES, its called a FRAUD. He is violating the hornor of martial artists, and why are you covering his ass?? WHY? Unless you are Greg himself?

I do educate myself, and I do not truly believe that he is of full Korean descent, and Ninjas started in China anyway.

Nobody should act on anybody, if he is wrong and if he is lying, he will get what is coming to him in due time.

If you were to act on him and get too involved in something like this, it would not be what a martial artist should do.

There is a saying, "Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know."

uh? so are you suggesting that you will accept a fraud who trick you to lose millions of money but not suing him? He has commited and violated. he should be accused and law should act on him, isnt that the general principal of the world today???

How is he making people lose money?

And he can't be arrested for nothing, you know that.

Yeah, yeah, your logic is not the worlds standard.

My logic is as true as anything. How can he be arrested for nothing?!

People can't be arrested for videos like he makes. If people could be arrested for that, you'd have TheAmazingAtheist gone, Scottbaioisdead would not be here, and such.

Atleast put up a decent argument, if you want to argue.

How about threatening with using Yamaguchi-gumi?
Isn't it a crime?

And when did he do that, and to who?

Watch my ChosonNinja issue video.

Yes, Choson can be arrested, cuz he does actually teaches things which are not true to kids face to face, not just through videos.

Your logic doesnt make sense. Spy could be found everywhere in the world, but Ninja could be found ONLY in JAPAN, am I right? Spy is concidered the oldest proffesion as they say and what makes you believe they came from China? You must give us credable source.

Yes, we should act and stop ChosonNinja to spread LIES and harm American children. He obviously LIES and teaches BOGUS, and whats your excuse to rationalize him?

"You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another."
Bible

Youd better educate yourself farther more since you obviously cant recognize reality from dellusion. OK, if ChosonNinja said that he has Japanese blood in him, and why did he said Ninja went to Korea and they passed secret teachings which eventually passed down to him?

And if he is half Japanese as he claim he is, let us know which one of his parents were, and what was he/her name and from where? Where is his certificate? Its so easy to make peace for us if he wants to, just by showing his Katana to professional swordsmith, why dont you do that?

Sorry, ran out of character space.

I know I am speaking right now, however, I am talking about confrontations here.

If you hate Greg Park, hate him, but there is no need to flame him and such! If he is wrong, then he is wrong. But if he is, then let his fate come to him, don't bring it to his doorstep.

I am trying to be logical here, and I am not taking sides. And I am NOT Greg Park.

Like I said, no need for confrontation of any time.

Why cant we say ChosonNinja is lying when HE ACTUALLY LIES??? What is your logic? Why cant we point out that ChosonNinja LIES LIKE BREATHING, and its TRUE? WHY??? ITS TRUE HE LIES!!!

And also, if you had any respect for martial arts, you would not simply join the crowd, which is what you are doing.

These people making these videos are immature, distorting Greg's face, calling him "Mumble Sensei"

Kids stuff. And Greg Park always says in his videos to train safe, and not to attempt what he teaches without a trained proffessional.

As I said, if you had any respect for martial arts, you would know that confronting him is NOT the way.

Hey, I would join the RIGHT side, not the CROWD. Get it right, and dont even try to trick me with word games, cuz Im not that stupid to get tricked by you, sad LIAR.

Greg is distoring Martial Arts face, and True Ninja history face, and calling Ninjas Korean, what about it???

That does not rationalize him encoraging Kids to play with weapons.

WE MUST CONFLICT AND FACE ChosonNinja and MAKE HIM LEARN A LESSON.

And if you think by writing all these stupid excuses is making you look something rational and good, hey you are FAILING SO HARD. Anyone who knows logic and respect can see you are a BIG JOKE, too.

ChosonNinja MUST be STOPPED. ChosonNinjas LIES are hurting Japanese hornor and ancestorial dignity as well as true Martial Arts image.

HE LIED MANY TIMES, HE IS TEACHING FRAUD. and what do you wanna do about it? Just ignore and let him be?? Whats your logic? Or more precisely, ETHIC???

And the way you talk, its typical talk by LIARS and FRAUD. You use the nice words like respect and then LIES. Kids or ignorants might get tricked, but uh,uh, not us.

You obviously are Greg or his cultic followers. We are decided to stop you. This will never stop till you admit your LIES.

I am sorry I don't like insulting people mindlessly, as you do.

It's a shame that you spend your life believing your OWN lies.

And you consider yourself anymore than a kid?

If so, you should know that you are ACTING like a child at the moment.

"It's a shame that you spend your life believing your OWN lies."

Are you supporting Choson's claims?
Well, why don't you prove "Nobunaga was Christian" "Yoshimitsu was Korean" "Kukai was Korean" etc...if you believe those are not lies..

I really did research to prove Choson is a liar.
(Watch my other videos)
But You Chosn Ninjers have never researched.
You guys just calling us haters without reading the historical records.
Greg and the ignorant Ninjer dorks like you caused all the conflicts.

DoomscytheHarvester
Please do your homework and post here next time.

thanx buffon399,

Cultic followers dont have reasons. What makes me surprised and wonder is everytime we see people like DoomscytheHarvester, what makes some of us so vulnarable to fall into these blind BELIEF based on nothing, one mans fantasy. Is it total ignorance? Is it our want in escaping reality? These people are willing to believe any boguses in order to make them feel glander than they are. They need these LIES Choson makes. ChosonNinja knows how to manipulate these types of people.

YES, its a shame theres someones like you, who think its OK to LIE to children to make themselves look better than they are, to make money.

YOU,

Whatever and however you try defending yourselves, You have commited sins, and spreading the LIES to distrupt our society and honor. We are angered by YOU. And we have to stop YOU. JUSTICE FOR ALL.

Why do you throw away your logic and intelligence and follow ChosonNinjas LIES? Do you realize, you actually are doing it intensionaly, willing. YOU KNOW Choson is a Bogus. But you somehow need those Boguses. Ask yourself why you need them. You are wanting to look special, strong, mysterical, a rare specy of mankind by believing you can be a Ninja.

DoomscytheHarvester.

You are persuing fantasy and defending your weakness.

True martial artist dont bother how others think of him, he persue to dicipling himself to higher meaning.

Find strength in yourself, not in LIES or in fantasy.

Honestly, if I gave any bit of care to what people say to or about me, I would really give a crap about your comments.

But somehow I find that I don't.

I pursuit a greater strength, on the inside, every day of my life.

And actually, I am defending myself as a person.

I do not appreciate being called a liar, a fraud, and someone that I am not (Greg Park)

The moves Greg Park uses are not fantasy, they are REAL, historically correct or not.

I do not watch him to monitor his

But in someway, you are not honorable and dont know what it is. Defending Greg Park-ChosonNinja is defending his LIES. How do you avoid this accusation? Lets see.

Claiming to be true martial artist, but learn things from someone like ChosonNinja whoes philosophy is based on complete LIES??? You really are convincing. Underneath that skin of yours, you are simply FAKE.

Sound like MumbleSensei's video really hurt you.lol
watch?v=-On0tJ1yQ7c

He IS WRONG. YES, HE IS, and he is planting his dellusions to innocent CHILDREN. Its also dengerous for children to learn how to use those weapons from someone who dont have real certificate, too. You are not being logical, neither you are being mutual. You obviously are protecting him and taking sides, your lie and logic is dengerously similar to Greg Park's.

We have to face and confront him and correct his LIES!!!

You wasted a good portion of your time making this. Unless he is posting something like child porn, then he can't really be arrested. As previously stated, if people could be arrested for lying, or having opinions, you would be arrested, I would be arrested, EVERYONE would be arrested.

Logic is something that you are lacking here, actually, because if you had any knowledge of what's going on, you wouldn't believe every video you watch about Greg PArk.

Haha, I dont mind wasting my time to protect what I think is important. Yes he can be arrested by being a fraud and manupulate Children. He can hire lawyer and talkabout it.

Well, then what is your logic in defending someone who is LYING?? What is it?? UH??? Hey, HE IS LYING!!! LETS TALK BOUT IT.

"Unless he is posting something like child porn"

Greg posted Adam's hip shaking video.
Do you think it's necessary to teach Nintaijutsu?

It is greater impoirtance what is masters philosophy is than his skills. Much like Dark Force in Star Wars, to make it easier for you to understand. That major reason why we need to act on him. His philosophy is wrong, and Martial Artist should carry true philosophy. In Japan, you have to register to police once we are at the certain level of skill in Martial Arts, cuz we can harm other people with our aquired skills. Without real philosophy, you are only a soldier, not martial artist.

I dont know if this is true, but im guessing ChosonNinja could be trained in Korean Military Force. In Milittary Force, they dont teach philosophy, they focus on how to attack and skills.

Well, you learn Ninjyutsu, uh? You have no idea how it sounds rediculous to us, sigh. Do you even know who are the real Ninjas???

DoomscytheHarvester
It seems you have no intention to provide the proofs of Choson's claims.
True Ninjutsu?lol
You can't even read the original Ninjutsu densho, can you?
The reason why you protect Choson is you are the same kind = Ninja fraud.
Go away.

true ninjutsu? what ryu of ninjutsu do you train in?>

Another Korean contradiction is when Korean commit crimes in overseas (Like the Virginia massacre) Koreans demand us to not generalize all Koreans like criminals.
But look, Koreans tend to generalize non-Koreans.

The first sword is Choson's Ninjato, 2nd is Choson's Renbato. They are both fictional swords.
The picture was I believe uploaded to his website.
The original picture is much better quality and you can see the man with Renbato is Choson.

That is not Ninjato but just Wakizashi.
Ninja-Wakizashi is game item.

the straight sword NEVER existed back then. it's just a fictional weapon that they sell at crappy martial arts stores.

Yes, but they weren't straight bladed, Buffon's talking about the straight bladed ones. Real ninja swords are wakizashi length blade fitted into katana length hilt and sheath. You could argue this but history and documentation prove that ninja never used straight bladed swords.

It's not the curve that makes a Japanese sword expensive or inexpensive. Even in the old days when they were used, it was the skill of the smith, the quality of the steel, and the brightness of the steel particles and crystals that made the blade expensive or cheap. While straight, diff. hardened blades are harder to traditionally make, that wouldn't have really affected cost much at all.

I thought you were one of Choson Ninjer.
But your comment  is right.
I have no objection with that.

I think you should educate ChosonNinja as his friend.
You know why he caused this huge trouble, right?
He hates Japanese but he wants to be like Japanese.
Though many Koreans have the same dilemma.

"grudge" is over the top.

This video just want to let people know ChosonNinja is cheating people as if he has authentic ninjato

Yeah, because we al like letting liars go. How about I go prancing around like a fairy saying, "This perticular guitar was given to my Great grandfather, by Emperor Jimmu, and has been passed to me". I shouldn't right, becuase I'd insult your intelligence by telling you a straight forward lie, right?

This kind of sword with a straight blade and square guard is a product of the modern imaginative conception of what the ancient NInjato was, it is purely fictional. Most likely the real ninjato, or shinobi gatana, was simply a shorter version of the samurai's daito katana, more like a wakizashi with a katana handle.

Well, Ninja sword didn't exist.

忍者刀そのものが存在しません。

正確に言うと伊賀甲賀の忍者は武士の一種ですからね。忍者の武器 は忍者刀じゃなくて一般的な脇差系の刀だと訂正しておきます。そ もそもあんな長いのだったら邪魔で忍びこめないですからね。

それはよく知られている上忍と言われる人達でしょう。
彼らは土豪です。
半農半武ですね。
しかし上忍以外のほとんどの人達は普通に農民でしょう。

まあ戦国時代は農民と下級武士は不可分ですからね、忍者は江戸期 に伊賀などは武士階級に組み入れられたようです。そして甲賀では 上忍は存在しないみたいです。後、キムチ忍者が着ていたような装 束はほとんど使われていなかったようです。

Again, Ninjato didn't exist.

A Ninjato(ninja sword) did almost certainly exist. Ninjas practiced swordsmanship with at least some kind of katana-like blade. Wkazhi, but maybe not the cartoon blade with a square handle.

No it didn't exist.
Ninjutsu wasn't martial art.
Some of them might practiced Kenjutsu but that's nothing to do with being Ninja.
Do you know how Sengoku period was?

ninjutsu just the collection of those martial skills

Kenjutsu itself was not alone....

Ninjutsu is not martial art.
Please read the actuall ninjutsu densho written in Edo period.
What you know about ninja is exactly the pop culture ninja.

Maybe not in of itself, but as a collective term for the taijutsu and kenjutsu and many other arts that they practiced.

I'm not talking about the hollywood shit.

Please read the actual Ninjutsu Densho.
They didn't practice martial arts.

An honest question:
Would it be more that it was a system of concealment, disguise, and investigation techniques? And the practitioners also studied martial arts as a common sense precaution?

From my research, there's no trace that they practiced martial arts as Ninja.
Of course some of them learned Kenjutsu but In those days, it was common for anybody to learn some kind of Kenjutsu whether they were Ninja or not.
Do you know Hideyoshi's Katana hunting?

I know some of the katana hunt, but have not studied it extensively. Why do you ask?

That is what I meant, so I think we are in agreement. Like how a modern day security guard (Bad example, I know) can study aikido, but being a security guard does not mean they are a martial artist. Like that?

I don't get what it means.
Their job is security guard but being martial artist isn't their job?
Is that what you mean?

I'm sorry. I wish I could write it in Japanese.

That's pretty much what I mean. They are a security guard as a job, but they can do martial arts on the side if they want. A security guard is not always a martial artist. Like that?

Samurai and peasant were mixed up during sengoku period.
Peasants had weapons in their home because they were also deployed to war.
Hideyoshi wanted to separate Samurai and peasant so he banned peasant to own weapons.

Ninja were basically armed peasants.

The Ninja I meant were Iga and Koka.

Rappa and Suppa were almost bandits.

I have a theory. Could it be that the modern representation of Ninja is flawed in another way? I mean, similar to how so many people think of peasant Ashigaru as Samurai?

Could it be that the modern representation of Ninja is flawed in another way?"

Like what?
I think the modern representation of Ninja is flawed alot already.

Well, I mean in an additional way. Such as the Ashigaru example. Many people think peasant Ashigaru were Samurai because they fought as one unit on the battlefield; perhaps the term Ninja is used too broadly in a similar way.

Like I said earlier, there wasn't border between Samurai and peasant until Hideyoshi's Katana hunting.
Ashigaru were peasant and also Samurai.

Hideyoshi himself started as an Ashigaru.

Ashigaru were half Samurai-half peasant.
Have you heard this word "Hanno-Hanbu"?反農半武
The "Hanno-Hanbu" rank existed until the end of Edo period.

Well it wasn't really a rank.
It should be called a position.
Gosh i郷士 was "Hanno-Hanbu"

Typo-半農半武=half peasant half samurai

Sorry. I needed sleep. x_x And no, "Hanno-Hanbu" is a New term to me. I will research it. Thank you. ^_^

Ashigaru = Samurai + Peasant is exactly what I'm talking about. The peasant Ashigaru are often called Samurai by modern sources because the line between them is blurred due to the umbrella of "Ashigaru".

Could some "Ninja" have been mis-classed as Ninja, when they were really peasants using guerrilla tactics?

I can send you a message privately if it would be more convenient.

You can post here.
This discussion may help other Ninja researchers.

>"Ninja" have been mis-classed as Ninja

Ninja wasn't "class", it's rather a name of a job or skill.
Hattori Hanzo is known as a Ninja but he really was a retainer of Tokugawa Ieyasu and he didn't do Ninja job.
Though he leaded Iga-Koka Ninja units was true.

A good idea.

I think I used poor wording. I meant "classed" as in classification. "Grouped" would have been better, I think.

Oh I see.
Yes, some researchers classify Saika and Negoro as Ninja, it wrong.
They were just gunners.
Matchlock mercenaries.(Does this word sound OK?)

Ah, yes. This is what I mean.

The word is fine. Basically, guns for hire, right?

Yes.

I see. Thank you very much for this discussion. It has helped me a lot. ^_^

That can't be an excuse of spreading lies.
Please fix Choson's ego and the extreme liar habit.
He's abnormal.

Spreading lies?
Because he said a sword was passed down to him?
Big deal....... That's hardly harming anyone. Lie or Not.
Choson's ego? It hardly needs fixing. From what i've seen hes very humble.... And I think just about anyone after a certain point would get tired of youtubers like yourself who feel the need to go around criticising everyone.

A person who tell a lie to make money was called a fraud. And yes, choson is a fraud. I'm too fair to overlook not only choson's injustices but others. Revealing their lies will make the world better. I believe everyone have the sense of justice. Why don't you criticize them for the world there is no fraud?

How is he making money from telling a lie about his sword or history?
Hes trying to teach martial arts........ and help people.
Hes not perfect... so some of the stuff he says may not be entirely accurate.
Who gives a shit..... We focus on his martial arts teachings. That's what the videos are mainly for. So i say you guys get a life. YOu act like hes killed someone or did something serious. Talking about "LETS BRING THIS FRAUD TO JUSTICE." I mean seriously get a life

Ｔhe youtube partner program pays for each 1000 views, thats why he makes videos and he continuously tell lies like "that's a real ninjutsu!" If he is a comedian, that's OK. but he pretends a martial art instructor . it's very dangerlous for the person who believe what he say. Nnjato is not a real sword for martial art and It'll injure you or somebody withtout proper handling . And he tell a ton of harmful lies like this on youtube.

I say again. Why don't you criticize him?

So since he got his history lesson wrong....... And he lies about a sword.

Hes all of a sudden a pseudo martial artist?
well hes displayed he has EXCELLENT skill.
None of what you said discredits him as a martial artist. Who cares if a Ninjato wasn't used in ancient times..... It can be used now.... Why can't it be used?

"hes displayed he has EXCELLENT skill."
Wow! It's the word I'm afraid of. Yes, he is a quasi-martial artist. He has no skill at all. But some people who have no idea about real martial arts, like you, are deceived by his "excellent" skill.

Do you know how easy a fake sword is break with small impact? It's not a sword to swing, but to decorate on the wall. A homemade Ninjato greg taught was the worst thing I've ever seen. if somebody copy him they'll get injured.

Halto.... You're dissing me and Choson's skill.

But I don't see you with anything better.

And to be bluntly honest. I think Choson and Me could both defeat you. I myself would probably put you down very easily.
So Mr. Keyboard warrior.....
Show us some REAL martial arts. Post a video that shows you're better than Choson. Because from what i've seen... Hes pretty good and has video evidence to prove he is good.
You're still talking about a damn sword. Which he tested and proven on video.

"I think Choson and Me could both defeat you."
What kind of martial arts did you do? Is your mental training lacking if you think what i said is "dissing"? I just said the truth. Greg uses fake swords, spread fake histories, tells fake martial arts. why is it dissing?

If you really believe Choson is pretty good, I guess you can't understand if I show you real martial arts.

I cross train, but i'm a ninjutsu practitioner. Actually my mental capability and IQ are above average human standards according to actual test. Prove his sword is fake and doesn't work....... Make a replica and show us how it cannot withstand small impact blows. ANd how is his martial arts fake?
Show me how it doesn't work, show me how his martial arts is ineffective?
You have nothing to offer. And stop making excuses and show us real martial arts. I doubt you can get out your chair.

What a typical behaviour frauds do!
that's "probatio diabolica", impossible proof, and the method many frauds use. We can't prove "the devil does not exist" cause there is no evidence about that.

You ask me to prove "his sword does NOT work", "his martial arts dose NOT work and is IN-effective".

I have no burden of proof, but You have. You must show me his sword is really passed down, his martial art are real and his ninjutsu is effective.

If you cannot prove something. THen you cannot claim it. That's called argumentum ad ignorantium. Yes you do have a Burden of proof. Philosophically and in our justice system. Burden of proof lies on anyone making a claim.
You made claims
1)His sword can't withstand
2)tells fake martial arts
3)spread fake histories

Therefore since those are you claims... It's now up to YOU to prove them. Not Me.
I never claimed his sword was passed down. Therefore I have no Burden. See how it works?

"If you cannot prove something. Then you cannot claim it. "
wrong method. but If you believe so, I use the method only for you.

1) you said "I never claimed his sword was passed down" in the same comment. and I also never claimed like that. that's fine.

2) Obviously. there is no evidence ninja in korea.

3) unfortunately, we have "a little" evidences.
/watch?v=9CDwcNQNMPo
and we have alittle more!
/watch?v=NSKENzdj0HY
wait! alittle more!
/watch?v=uhyCM-Ipe7c
would you like alittle more?

How is that a wrong method?
It's the same method used by scholars and our justice system.
The same method that works.
Don't make claims you cannot prove.
Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence.

NOne of those links you've shown me has really helped your case. Since I never asked you to prove hes wrong about History. I could care less about that..... I want you to show us how his martial arts is ineffective and not real like yours.

alittle examples
1) he throws bo-shuriken with spinning. it's ineffective.
2) he makes handmade ninja-to with 1018 carbon steel. it's ineffective.
3) he wears "guillie suit" made by fishing net. it's ineffective.
4) he said he was taught by Olympic Karate Gold Medalist. it's not real.
and so on.

If you can't understand why these are ineffective, you ask your teacher except greg, or rewatch the video buffon and scottbaioisdead.

You'll say "these are not proofs at all!" cause that's a "probatio diabolica", impossible proof. But that's the some of reason why I concluded he is fake.

Now I have just a question to you. Why did you think "hes displayed he has EXCELLENT skill"?

I've already explained... Read previously.
And no..... I don't claim it's impossible to prove.
But I do ask you to meet your Burden of Proof.

.......... Well lets see you do better than what he has displayed on his video with shuriken throwing. Because from what I saw..... It did what it was supposed to do. Each time.

And you still haven't proven 2-4 are incorrect.

"Don't make claims you cannot prove."

Sorry, I made mistake to read English.

"If you cannot prove something. Then you cannot claim it. "

now I agree this method in certain situations.
So please forgive me.

"Don't make claims you cannot prove."

yes, that word is i want to say to choson.

"Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence."

Yes! choson always say "this is real ninjutsu/martial arts!" but he never show us any evidence. So can i claim him fake?

You also fail to meet burden of proof.
I don't really care much for his history lessons or anything else outside of developing my own skill. And from what I've seen..... What hes trying to achieve his technique has allowed him to achieve.... So it might not be right by your tradition. But it works. I may be ninjutsu martial artist, but I follow Jeet Kun Do Philosophy. Shed what is useless and cling to what works.

You also fail to meet burden of proof.
No no, how many times did i say I don't have to prove "probatio diabolica"?

"But it works"
Prove it and show me how it works. or never claim like that.

Please show me a numerical value how much benefit is from his teaching WITHOUT subjective probability. And prove it!

Once again, Calculus isn't subjective.

Anyways I'm quite tired of arguing with someone who obviously isn't here to reason, but is here to stir trouble. You aren't even paying attention to what i'm saying.

I never ask you to prove Calculus is subjective or not, but prove how your Bayesian Probability shows that people are benefiting from his teachings rather than not benefiting WITHOUT SUBJECTIVE PROBABILITY.

You are the man who are never pay attention others say.

Bayesian Probability is supported by calculus..... Once again I'm repeating myself. Thus you're not paying attention.
And once again I said read my sentences before "therefore"
Which also shows you're not paying attention.
-sigh-

Waste of my time.

how many times do I have to say?
I ask you prove what your Bayesian Probability shows WITHOUT your subjective probabillity.
Is hurting somebody only "not benefit" from his teaching? It's too subjective at your own choice. therefore the result is also subjective.

Don't waste your time to splead lies!

For the last time. It's clearly obvious by going to his videos. There's over 10 comments per page.

For everyone page I can find good comments over bad comments..
I don't even need a number. Since it's verifiable that the probability of a good comment is higher than a bad comment.
Bayesian Probability can be used to display objective evidence for his teachings being helpful versus unhelpful.
Now like I said you're probably going to ignore this AGAIN. Which is why once you do I won't respond.

LOL. Couldn't you find the fact choson cencored all coments on his video? Or you deliberately ignored it?that's the reason why there is no reliability what you say.

"For the last time. "
Wow, I'm happy you give up to follow the fraud. The world get better a little bit. Please never come back again! Keep what you said!

"For everyone page I can find good comments over bad comments.."

Of course he doesn't approve objections.
We all know that.
Thatis why we started making response videos.
You know nothing about this issue!

That's because he deletes all the negative comments or blocks you.

His videos show him throwing shuriken and hititng their targets.

Obviously it works.

I've met my burden of proof....... You're asking for proof i've already presented.

Prove these videos are not fake.
If you can't, never say it works.

Like I said..... Waste of time.
If you're going to question the validity of a video tape without presenting evidence that perhaps it could be edited. Most people would consider you stupid and a waste of time at this point.

Waste of time?
OK, you don't have to post here anymore.
Bye.

So what?
That can't be an indulgence of fraud.

"I don't really care much for his history lessons "

Then you don't have to post here.
I'm focusing on his history delusion.
You haven't watched my videos have you?

Well then why don't you prove Greg is correct?

Watch my videos.
I have proven Greg's lies.

"I cross train, but i'm a ninjutsu practitioner. Actually my mental capability and IQ are above average human"

Ahahaha
Why do Koreans always like to talk about IQ?
They say Korean race have the highest IQ in all human beings.

Race has nothing to do with I.Q., anyone who thinks so is a fuckin idiot. Actually, I can say that your I.Q. and Dean's are higher than average human being's because you both have so much knowledge. Honestly, I may have a book's worth of knowledge, but you and Dean actually have an entire library's worth of knowledge.

My I.Q. is slightly higher than the average human being's according to tests as well so answer me these questions: 1.What ninjutsu ryuha do you study? 2.Whom did you study under? 3.Why would you believe a phony ninja whose so called lineage has been dead for 40 yrs? 4.How isn't his sword a fake and how isn't it cheap? 5.How isn't his ninjutsu lineage false when it doesn't look like ninjutsu, he changes his stories around, and he hasn't provided documentation? Please answer my questions.

You are so ignorant low level man.
You think all the anti-ninja fraud people are martial artists?
Violent person like you shoudn't be allowed to learn martial arts.

"well hes displayed he has EXCELLENT skill."

He looks good for ignorants like you.
Some experts already pointed out how what he did were harmful to ignorants.
And Greg was kicked out from the park for use of harmful weapons in public space by the police.

"How is he making money from telling a lie about his sword or history? "

No.
He's making money with the Ninja fraud.
He doesn't have the official license to teach those martial arts.

Sure fraud won't harm anybody phisycally.
(But he almost cut off his students arm)

But how about Choson threatened critics by using Yamaguchi-gumi?
Isn't it a crime?
He doesn't harme yet but he may will since he has connection to Yakuza.

I have yet to see commentary of someone saying.... "Hey your teachings got me hurt"
Great. That might be a fruit of our effort to reveal his lies.

"Therefore Bayesian Probability shows that people are benefiting from his teachings rather than not benefiting."
Prove it. or never say things like that, hehe.

Prove it?

I just did.
Read my sentences before "Therefore" so you can see the support for my "therefore" conclusion.

Oops, I made mistake the order of posting.
It's just a joke.

I can't understand why you ignore the possibility that his lies will be caused harm in the future.
・A ton of frauds like greg will appear cause nobody criticize thier lies.
・children who can't understand his lies will copy him and hurt.
・also some idiot will hurt for same reason...
etc

Bayesian Probability is based on subjective probabillity. So your "proof" doesn't prove anything except the fact you have no imagenation for predictive risks.

No one has gotten hurt?
So there's no evidence to show you're correct.

Bayesian Probability is actually based on Calculus. Which is objective.

As I said, I am focusing on his lies about history and the Yamaguchi-gumi black mail incident.
As long as he fabricate history, I keep posting video.