As of June 2008, the earliest PAYNE we know about is Richard PAYNE who probably died in 1796. He left a will, proved 1807, describing himself as of Tooley Street, Southwark. His uncle Richard BUSBY's will refers to him as a bread baker and his children's baptisms show him to be a gingerbread baker. Richard married Eleanor Lark KEMP in 1765 in St Olave's Southwark Aunt Marge's register states that:" he lived at Deptford in Kent where he inherited some freehold property. He was an only son and died in 1796. Eleanor Lark Kemp [born 1744] died aged about 30 and left four children." She also tells us that Eleanor was his second wife. Richard's will was proved in October 1807 indicating a possible death in that year or in 1806 but searches of St Olave's register show the only Richard PAYNE burial took place in 1796. The will refers to his son-in-law Nathaniel Richard JONES who died in 1797 and Richard's admon states that Nathaniel Richard JONES "him dying without him taking the Execution thereof" and was, therefore, dead at the time that probate was granted. Richard's undated will was clearly written before his son's death in 1797 but the late granting of probate in 1807 shows a possible family dispute. Richard refers in his will to his wife Martha to whom he left his estate along with his four daughters, Sarah PAYNE, Ann PAYNE, Eleanor PAYNE and Hannah JONES. The will is not dated and must have been made after 1789 when Hannah PAYNE had already married Nathaniel Richard JONES. The will refers to yet another wife, a Martha, and Richard states his hope that, "hoping and trusting my said wife will do everything in her power necessary for the benefit of my daughters Sarah Payne and Ann Payne but in case any difference arises between my said wife and daughters then the product or value of the above to be divided as follows..." so possibly some difference did indeed arise. As of July 2008, Eleanor's death and burial date have not been found but it was not between 1774 and 1775. There are, mysteriously, other children in the IGI born to a Richard Payne and Eleanor incuding Rachel in 1783 who was born to Richard and Eleanor indicating that Eleanor was alive in that year. Richard refers in his will to having being left freehold property in King Street and Mark Lane Deptford by his late uncle Richard Busby. I have not yet discovered how he was related to Richard BUSBY. | Martha PAYNE was certainly his wife after the death of Eleanor but whether she was the second or third wife remains unclear. The rents from the Deptford properties were to be divided between his four daughters and it was probably these rents that allowed Hannah JONES to remain independent of remarriage for the rest of her life. The will of Richard PAYNE and that of Richard BUSBY explain the notes* by Alfred Portlock Rubidge that his "grandmother PAYNE's ancestors possessed freehold property in Kent". * in Edgar Alfred Duckett RUBIDGE's 1969 compilation of a RUBIDGE family tree. He was a descendant of Alfred Portlock RUBIDGE. Ann PAYNE (b 1766) married Robert King, then John VINCENT (b 1771). Ann at 75 and John, a waterman, aged 70 are found at Pump Court, Rotherhithe, St Olave's Parish on the 1841 census. Sarah PAYNE (b 1777) married Robert STARKE and she and sister Hannah JONES (b 1770) were living together at Deverill Place, Lambeth, St Mary Newington parish on the 1841 census. Both are noted as being 'independent'. Hannah JONES had been a widow for 44 years when she died in 1845 aged. Her sister Sarah is not named in her death record so had moved away or had died earlier. Hannah's three surviving children Richard Payne Jones,The Southwark JONES family: Richard Payne Jones (1793 -1853) in the Cape Eleanor Payne JonesThe Southwark JONES family: Eleanor Payne Jones (1795 - 1859) and Hannah Payne Jones had all left England in the early 1820s so Hannah died without the benefit of close family. According to Aunt Marge's register, all the PAYNE children were very young when they lost their mother, Eleanor, Hannah being about seven. She then lost her husband at 27 then effectively her adult children at about 54 when they emigrated to the Cape. To a great extent she will also have missed contact with her numerous grandchildren. |